THE WENGER THREAD

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Clash wrote:After the CL final tonight on BT Sport there was a programme with Tom Watt called Football Outposts about clubs who had once been unlikely european giants for a spell before almost disappearing back to into obscurity. It was quite interesting but Watt overdoes the poignancy and the long pause for dramatic effect thing too much as he often does.

Anyway one of the teams featured was the French team Stade de Reims in the 1950s. They were labelled as playing ''champagne football'' and had apparently brought something new to the game.

And then right on cue ...guess whose mug pops up on the screen to educate us about how ''they had technical quality'' ... an ''intelligent technical coach'' ... and were ''the first technical team in France''. All about technique technique technique :lol:

Watt then told Wenger how someone he had met on his travels had told him that Stade de Reims were like Arsenal under Arsene Wenger. This was two men clearly in their element. One sycophant getting the chance to suck up to his lord and master ... and the other getting his massive ego nicely massaged by one of his disciples.

Later in the programme someone mentions Wenger's name when thinking of examples of those who are ''football masterminds'' :)


And so despite years of mis-management and underachievement, Wengers reputation in the game is largely undamaged :roll: .

His reputation is largely undamaged as he's consistently finished in the top 4 in his 20 year stint. Only Bayern Munich can better that during the same period of time, and it wasn't with the same manager.

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Wenger has a habit of talking like he knows everything. Every 'expert' should conduct themselves in the case they could be wrong. But with Wenger, whenever he talks, he talks like he is offering amazing insight and it should be taken as gospel.

He has an opinion on everything. He passes his thoughts on other managers, on other teams, on other players, on Brexit, on oil prices, on Chinese investment in football. He talks talks talks, even though he has massive problems in his own shop.

How can he offer his insight on what makes a top striker, when he 'saw something' in Yaya Sanogo? Whatever he saw, it exists only in his own head. Yet in his own head, us masses are showing our limitations for not being able to 'see something' in Sanogo. Its a dangerous position when your interpretation is at odds with the rest of the world - because its more than likely its you who have gone mad, and not the rest of the world.

The highbury flats didnt sell for as much as they could have, because of the GFC - weres your Fing economics degree Arsene? Why didnt you see that one coming? After all, your talking about the future of the UK and Europe after Brexit.

You would think being wrong so often would hubmle him, but he doesnt. He keeps going like he is an actual professor.

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Nos89 wrote:
Clash wrote:After the CL final tonight on BT Sport there was a programme with Tom Watt called Football Outposts about clubs who had once been unlikely european giants for a spell before almost disappearing back to into obscurity. It was quite interesting but Watt overdoes the poignancy and the long pause for dramatic effect thing too much as he often does.

Anyway one of the teams featured was the French team Stade de Reims in the 1950s. They were labelled as playing ''champagne football'' and had apparently brought something new to the game.

And then right on cue ...guess whose mug pops up on the screen to educate us about how ''they had technical quality'' ... an ''intelligent technical coach'' ... and were ''the first technical team in France''. All about technique technique technique :lol:

Watt then told Wenger how someone he had met on his travels had told him that Stade de Reims were like Arsenal under Arsene Wenger. This was two men clearly in their element. One sycophant getting the chance to suck up to his lord and master ... and the other getting his massive ego nicely massaged by one of his disciples.

Later in the programme someone mentions Wenger's name when thinking of examples of those who are ''football masterminds'' :)


And so despite years of mis-management and underachievement, Wengers reputation in the game is largely undamaged :roll: .

His reputation is largely undamaged as he's consistently finished in the top 4 in his 20 year stint. Only Bayern Munich can better that during the same period of time, and it wasn't with the same manager.
But lets not mention the fact that Bayern do not just qualify, they are actually a team to be reckoned with, one to be avoided if possible, unlike us, who are only in it to make up the numbers. The teams who don't want to "get us" in the next round only exist in Feo's head.

You can dress it up anyway you like, the fact is Wenger leads a charmed life in the media, anybody who was worth his job would question the fact, after all these years why we do not have a hope in hell in the CL.

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Dictates the atmosphere :? was it a verbal questionnaire or did the fans that dictate the atmosphere have to put down their selfie sticks and lattes to fill in a form?

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Wonder what Wenger's reputation on the continent is like mind

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Sixty-eight % wanted him sacked after the 1-1 draw with Palace, which had become a 'sizeable majority' for stay, after the last match. Which just show how fickle fans are! Of course there was euphoria on the last day as the ball bulged the tott's net 5 times, handing 2nd place on a plate to us, hell, it nearly brought a twitch on xisstential's top lip. I wonder how the same people who voted 'stay' felt when Leicester fans were going mental in the park with the trophy in front of them? Judge him in May - again!Time will tell.

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northbank123 wrote:Wonder what Wenger's reputation on the continent is like mind
No title or even a challenge in 12yrs and constant last 16 brownholings would make me think he will be a joke figure (amongst those who know football and the size of our club)

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northbank123 wrote:Wonder what Wenger's reputation on the continent is like mind
They say nice things about him but ultimately no serious teams and managers see Wenger's Arsenal as a threat.

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northbank123 wrote:Wonder what Wenger's reputation on the continent is like mind
I would guess 'a leetul beet jaded'

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Nos89 wrote: His reputation is largely undamaged as he's consistently finished in the top 4 in his 20 year stint. Only Bayern Munich can better that during the same period of time, and it wasn't with the same manager.
What kind of nonsense post is this?
Only Bayern can better Wengers CL record?

Tell that to the players, managers and fans of Barca, Real, Inter, Porto, Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea etc, etc.....
Teams who have actually won it fs. Every single one of those teams record is better than Wengers because they have won it. Wengers record is one of failure. Total utter failure.

But hey, lets re-write CL history. Never let the truth stand in the way of a "Wenger is great" story.

Jesus, the lengths some people go to make Wenger look better than he is never ceases to amuse me.
There was even someone last nite saying Simeone was a worse manager than Wenger because he'd lost two CL finals and Wenger only one. :?

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armchair wrote:
Nos89 wrote: His reputation is largely undamaged as he's consistently finished in the top 4 in his 20 year stint. Only Bayern Munich can better that during the same period of time, and it wasn't with the same manager.
What kind of nonsense post is this?
Only Bayern can better Wengers CL record?

Tell that to the players, managers and fans of Barca, Real, Inter, Porto, Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea etc, etc.....
Teams who have actually won it fs. Every single one of those teams record is better than Wengers because they have won it. Wengers record is one of failure. Total utter failure.

But hey, lets re-write CL history. Never let the truth stand in the way of a "Wenger is great" story.

Jesus, the lengths some people go to make Wenger look better than he is never ceases to amuse me.
There was even someone last nite saying Simeone was a worse manager than Wenger because he'd lost two CL finals and Wenger only one. :?
Jesus, that is twisted thinking beyond any sensible logic... :banghead:

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Ed Hunter The Gooner wrote:
armchair wrote:
Nos89 wrote: His reputation is largely undamaged as he's consistently finished in the top 4 in his 20 year stint. Only Bayern Munich can better that during the same period of time, and it wasn't with the same manager.
What kind of nonsense post is this?
Only Bayern can better Wengers CL record?

Tell that to the players, managers and fans of Barca, Real, Inter, Porto, Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea etc, etc.....
Teams who have actually won it fs. Every single one of those teams record is better than Wengers because they have won it. Wengers record is one of failure. Total utter failure.

But hey, lets re-write CL history. Never let the truth stand in the way of a "Wenger is great" story.

Jesus, the lengths some people go to make Wenger look better than he is never ceases to amuse me.
There was even someone last nite saying Simeone was a worse manager than Wenger because he'd lost two CL finals and Wenger only one. :?
Jesus, that is twisted thinking beyond any sensible logic... :banghead:
Only Bayern can better the consistency of finishing in the top 4 over the last 20 years. Look it up and research before you criticise. Both Madrid and Barcelona have finished outside top 4 in at least one season in the last 20 years. Thats all I said quite where you were going with it?
I didn't mention CL.

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:roll: And what's the point of mentioning consistently finishing top 4 if you aren't on about CL qualification?

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Nos89 wrote:
Ed Hunter The Gooner wrote:
armchair wrote:
Nos89 wrote: His reputation is largely undamaged as he's consistently finished in the top 4 in his 20 year stint. Only Bayern Munich can better that during the same period of time, and it wasn't with the same manager.
What kind of nonsense post is this?
Only Bayern can better Wengers CL record?

Tell that to the players, managers and fans of Barca, Real, Inter, Porto, Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea etc, etc.....
Teams who have actually won it fs. Every single one of those teams record is better than Wengers because they have won it. Wengers record is one of failure. Total utter failure.

But hey, lets re-write CL history. Never let the truth stand in the way of a "Wenger is great" story.

Jesus, the lengths some people go to make Wenger look better than he is never ceases to amuse me.
There was even someone last nite saying Simeone was a worse manager than Wenger because he'd lost two CL finals and Wenger only one. :?
Jesus, that is twisted thinking beyond any sensible logic... :banghead:
Only Bayern can better the consistency of finishing in the top 4 over the last 20 years. Look it up and research before you criticise. Both Madrid and Barcelona have finished outside top 4 in at least one season in the last 20 years. Thats all I said quite where you were going with it?
I didn't mention CL.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
There's a lesson in there somewhere :rubchin:

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