THE WENGER THREAD

[dPmunky]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... al-4679509

as long as the fans have this outlook...ya know....ignoring REALITY, the naked emperor will stay in power

[Herd]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... er-4684774

Great article but it seems that Gazza has forgotten that Gary hasn't been at Arsenal for some years , also I cant see us
paying him any money unless of course he thought he was signing him to play a defensive midfield role !

I member talking to George Best about Gazza when Gazza was slagging him off saying he would never end up like George,
George said that that of course was the truth because he would never achieve anything like his status , and he was right !

[donaldo71]

At last the media are turning against Wenger.Except Wenger apologist and arse kisser John Cross of course

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... ummer.html

[TeeCee]

Momentum is building. Defeats to Dortmund and Saints will help tremendously. Hopefully Ivan will have a quiet word in Herr Klopps ear and line him up for the end of the season, Arsenal wouldn't get rid of Wonga mid season, they'll ask him to 'leave' at the end of it to avoid being sacked....that way they will also not have to pay 30 odd million in compensation, they'll probably agree to pay him 15-20m to walk early and Wonga being the greedy bastard that he is will very probably take it....but then again, the worlds biggest ego will still be thinking 'no-one knows better than me'!!!

WONGA OUT!!

[goonersid]

I don't think there is a manager in the league who could be doing a worse job than wenker, with the squad he has at his disposal.

[Herd]

He lives in an Ivory Tower and doesn't see the Rubbish we spout on here .
I dont believe the Star Gazidis story for a moment either.
It might be uncomfortable for him to read the Newspapers who after all are just
regurgitating what they see on here but not as much as you might think .

It will only take a few wins and this will all fizzle out again !

[Eboue-Why?]

I blame Kieran Gibbs

[meh]

Alisher Usmanov who spoke to CNBC about ‘mistakes’ and needing to change and improve and do better blah blah blah,

Arseblog reporting Usmanov's comments. Even his army of akb's are beginning to see the light, but the guy remains firmly on the fence.

[xgtdec]

Alisher Usmanov who spoke to CNBC about ‘mistakes’ and needing to change and improve and do better blah blah blah,

Arseblog reporting Usmanov's comments. Even his army of akb's are beginning to see the light, but the guy remains firmly on the fence.

Listen...when wenger does eventually get the boot (hopefully sooner rather than laster) Arseblog will be waiting at wengers house with his pipe, slippers and a hard luck but i still love you blow-job. Arseblog is whats wrong with our club, a complete and utter gimp residing so far up wengers colon he doesnt appear on any scans!!

[madjens]

At last the media are turning against Wenger.Except Wenger apologist and arse kisser John Cross of course

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... ummer.html

"What a load of tosh this article is, Arsene Wenger is a great manager enduring a run of bad results."

"you idiots think he should go? Because of what? One season where the players haven't performed in the first quarter of one season?"

"Sometimes what you have is the best that it can ever be and you only find that our when its gone."

The tide is turning, but I reckon we could get relegated and still be told to "be careful what we wish for" by some of these "fans"!

[Theoperator]

The tide is turning, but I reckon we could get relegated to The Vanarama conference Premier and still be told to "be careful what we wish for" by some of these "fans"!

[OneBardGooner]

At last the media are turning against Wenger.Except Wenger apologist and arse kisser John Cross of course

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... ummer.html

This article by Henry Winter (Telegraph) really is well written and (for me) perfectly articulates how many have come to see and regard Wenger - None of us ever thought we would loathe the man, but it really has become a wholly untenable situation, the only thing Henry Winter doesn't go into too deepply is that while Wenger IS responsible for his (and the teams) current awful situation and status - The Arsenal Board, along with Gazidis AND Kreonke must also shoulder their fair share of the responsibility for allowing it to get to this state - Arsenal has long been a club equated with "Class" and "Tradition" - those things have become severely tarnished under this awful regime...

I have copied and pasted this from the Telegraph for those in work who may not be able to access the links:


In fact this would make a very good Template for any fan wishing to write to Wenger and/or The Board.

By: Henry Winter (Daily Telegraph) 25th November 2014.

After winning the FA Cup on a sunny May day, giving Arsenal supporters a golden day out as well as a first trophy in nine years, Arsène Wenger deserved this season to show he could deliver more significant silverware.
Far from the noise of Wembley, the Mayday call is of a different sound now ringing in Arsenal ears.
Any criticism of Wenger is laced with frustration and almost sorrow, especially for those of us privileged to sit around the Highbury boardroom table in 1996 listening spell-bound as the new man articulated his vision. The wind of change blew through the marble halls.
Wenger has gone on to modernise a historic English club, improving the players’ diet, ending the “boring, boring” image of their football, overseeing the building of a state-of-the-art training ground and the most high-spec stadium in Europe.
As well as transforming his immediate environs, Wenger enriched the broader surrounds of English football, encouraging a more cerebral style, bringing a touch of class on and off the field. He has been a missionary, spreading enlightenment. His Invincibles stand as one of the greatest teams in history.
Wenger railed against referees and opposing managers, was myopic over decisions, but exuded purist principles respected by many neutrals, even rival fans. The game owes him a deep debt of gratitude. He has represented English football well.
It is sadly almost instinctive now to write of Wenger’s impact in the past tense. Unless he changes, Wenger has entered the end-game of his long, productive relationship with Arsenal. The sense of drift has returned and Wenger’s hand is uncertain on the tiller.
Unless he can get Arsenal pushing properly in the right direction again, instilling a better balance between defence and attack, then one of the most iconic managers of the modern era, and the most revered in Arsenal’s 128-year history, must accept he has taken a club he loves as far as his waning strengths can. He will have to consider his future next summer.
Some supporters want him gone now, and two unfavourable polls run on leading fans’ websites, but any split must be in the summer, particularly as the right successor, a Jurgen Klopp or Roberto Martínez, would surely not quit their current employers mid-season.
Even then, complications intensify. It is a decision that only Wenger can take. Arsenal’s board will not dismiss Wenger. It is too in awe of him. It is too content with the culture of finishing fourth, guaranteeing the lucrative rewards of the Champions League. It is too soft.

It was against all sound business logic that Wenger should have been allowed involvement in the recruitment of his boss. Ivan Gazidis, Arsenal’s chief executive, is very competent in many areas of running a major sporting institution but will he stand up to Wenger? Will he point out the glaring faults in the 65-year-old’s buying and tactics, flaws that every fan can see? Unfortunately, Wenger has gone from French revolutionary to Sun King. Everybody tiptoes around him, paying homage, not calling him to account. It is an unhealthy situation.
If nobody possesses the leadership qualities to refocus Wenger, then the sad impasse looks set to continue. For all his honourable traits, it is hard to see him standing down. He is too stubborn and not many walk away from a handsome contract that runs until 2017. It is also difficult to see where Wenger, a man addicted to football, would go.
Nowhere else in the upper echelons of the game would he be granted the free rein he enjoys at Arsenal. Paris St-Germain, oft-mentioned as a future abode, hardly chime with the past noises he has made about FFP-busters.
If a regime change seems unlikely, then all Arsenal can hope for is a change in Wenger himself. Maybe David Dein, a man he really did listen to, could do his beloved Arsenal a favour and tell his friend and neighbour to see and confront the errors before his legacy gets tarnished.
Wenger needs to acknowledge and act upon the inherent tactical weakness inhibiting the team’s chances of dealing with the more accomplished, better-balanced opponents around. He needs to lose that ludicrous obstinate streak that increasingly resembles arrogance when the man himself is one of the game’s most well-mannered, charming and self-deprecating individuals.
Watching Wenger behave like this, ignoring the faults that others see, is painful to behold. He has yet to acquire either the nous or defensive personnel to come even close in the Premier League or Champions League in recent years. Arsenal will probably still finish fourth in the English title race, albeit furlongs adrift of better-trained thoroughbreds. They will probably go out early in the knock-out stages of Europe’s elite competition, depending on the draw. Where once they sought to scale the heights, they are now happy with the passage across the plateau. Fourth is the new first.
Questions intensify over Wenger’s suitability because he now has money to spend and the team show little sign of progress. The dynamic has changed since Wenger spent £42.5 million on Mesut Özil (and then played him wide rather than his preferred No 10 role). He cannot plead poverty now in transfer funds or salaries.
Alexis Sánchez has been an enormous success, yet it is dangerous for the team to become so reliant on him. Wenger bought the promising Calum Chambers and has fielded him at right back where his lack of pace was immediately highlighted by Edin Dzeko in the Community Shield. Chambers deserves using at centre-back. Nacho Monreal is an average full-back out of his depth at centre-half. Why sell Thomas Vermaelen? Why send Carl Jenkinson out on loan? So many questions.

The failure to recruit a centre-half and holding midfielder is a misery-laden mantra among fans. For the 125th anniversary crest in 2011, the club attached one word to the iconic emblem, the word “forward”; it was never going to be “defend’’, a word Wenger does not seem to understand, a concept that underpins title campaigns.
Wenger called his team’s defending “naive” against Manchester United on Saturday when the accusation should most be levelled at him. Such an experienced manager is failing at the basics of his trade: setting up the team properly, coaching them, drilling them, ensuring there are players covering, guarding against the counter-attacks.
His full-backs push up far too high, exposing the centre-backs. His holding midfielder, Mikel Arteta, is no Patrick Vieira or Gilberto Silva. There is no muscle in the middle. He has few real leaders on the pitch. Arsenal threw away goals as well as wine on Saturday.
Mitigating circumstances, such as misfortune with injuries, must be acknowledged. Olivier Giroud’s return (domestically) will help. Theo Walcott’s directness will help. Arsenal should qualify from Group D. But even a good result over Klopp’s Borussia Dortmund on Wednesday cannot mask the fault-lines.
From next summer, Arsenal need fresh ideas and impetus. The suggestion that Wenger should move upstairs, overseeing the new era from the boardroom, is insane. The break needs to be total – even if reverence for his fabled feats will never, ever leave Arsenal.

[meh]

Arseblog is whats wrong with our club, a complete and utter gimp residing so far up wengers colon he doesnt appear on any scans!!

[Bendtners Drinking Buddy]

Wenger will never, ever be Sacked. It simply wont happen.

And he won't walk out mid-season either.

I do wonder what would have happenned had we not won the FA Cup last year, i believe he would have walked personally.

My question is, if someone of the calibre we would like (Klopp, Simeone) became available mid season would the board make a change? I think its a resounding no.

I actually think him leaving now would leave us further in the mire, because i actually am pretty confident we will be top 4 - and thats all we can hope for now after this debacle of a season so far.

We need top 4 to keep the likes of Alexis and attract a decent manager - and sadly top 4 is all we can hope for this season now. Im afraid he is the cause, but also the short-term (and i mean short-term) solution.

[Ikechukwu1]

It really is concerning that the online equivalent of spunk-for-brains, Arseblog, is some kind of representation of fandom.
Thankfully, even his army of minions are beginning to see the light. Arseb logger is in the same pot as Red Action far as I'm concerned. The day their messiah is gone - and that day is around the corner - they are going to have one almighty scrap to see who can catch the last drips of piss from Wenker's dinkle