There's often mention of 1989 here and George Graham.
That day at Anfield is the greatest football memory of my life and I'll always be grateful to George for it.
But what's his legacy at Arsenal?
I loved George, but was devastated when he ripped us off in that bung scandal.
The bottom line, for me, is he condemned us to players like Pal Lyderson and John Jensen so he could fill his own pockets.
He put George before Arsenal.
Interested to know what other Gooners think...
George Graham - Good or Bad?
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Maybe that was his way of rebelling against lack of funds from the board?perry groves was a legend wrote:He is tainted for me,split into two legacies.
The legend that played and managed arsenal to trophies and then the fucker that robbed money on the club and went on to win silverware with the spuds.
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Maybe,but he was the highest paid manager in the league at the time if memory serves me correct.skipper wrote:Maybe that was his way of rebelling against lack of funds from the board?perry groves was a legend wrote:He is tainted for me,split into two legacies.
The legend that played and managed arsenal to trophies and then the fucker that robbed money on the club and went on to win silverware with the spuds.
The man is a God. End.Of.Story 
On the bung business, correct me if I'm wrong, GG bought 2 players and paid the asking price and after the deal was completed hauge then gave him a kick-back. The investigation at the time maintained that he actually wanted to buy these players so there was no corrupt reasons for these purchases so I dont get the problem here - how many people up and down the country get kick-backs when they throw business to certain people or companies ? How is that taking money from the club ? If the selling clubs had of dealt directly with GG or our club then this situation would never have arose but instead they sought the services of an agent, declared to him their asking price and anything above that he kept and therein lies the problem. Still have to say though that whatever the wrongs or rights of taking the money I still cannot agree that he took money from the club
On the bung business, correct me if I'm wrong, GG bought 2 players and paid the asking price and after the deal was completed hauge then gave him a kick-back. The investigation at the time maintained that he actually wanted to buy these players so there was no corrupt reasons for these purchases so I dont get the problem here - how many people up and down the country get kick-backs when they throw business to certain people or companies ? How is that taking money from the club ? If the selling clubs had of dealt directly with GG or our club then this situation would never have arose but instead they sought the services of an agent, declared to him their asking price and anything above that he kept and therein lies the problem. Still have to say though that whatever the wrongs or rights of taking the money I still cannot agree that he took money from the club
I'm more pissed off that he went to Spurs than got a brown envelopes to be honest. I reckon at the time, almost every manager did that. Some still do now ( evidence), but most football clubs have turned from "clubs" into businesses in the last two decades.
Legend for what he achieved though; I'm too young to remember before his reign, but I gather that the team he inherited were pretty awful.
Legend for what he achieved though; I'm too young to remember before his reign, but I gather that the team he inherited were pretty awful.
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I doubt that I will be as excited as an Arsenal fan as I was that night at Anfield - my first league title as a fan and against the team I'd grown to loathe throughout the 70s and 80s. For that one moment alone, GG will always be a hero of mine.
I don't condone what he did by taking backhanders but football was rife with that at the time and a number of other undoubted offenders, including Cloughie, Venables, Atkinson etc managed to bugger off into the distance before being caught out.
Personally the Spurs episode after he left us didn't bother me. In fact we should be proud that it took a Gooner to finally bring them some success and even then they couldn't find it in themselves to give him the praise he deserved preferring a series of Messiahs like Ardiles, Hoddle and Gross.
GG - legend, and always will be.
I don't condone what he did by taking backhanders but football was rife with that at the time and a number of other undoubted offenders, including Cloughie, Venables, Atkinson etc managed to bugger off into the distance before being caught out.
Personally the Spurs episode after he left us didn't bother me. In fact we should be proud that it took a Gooner to finally bring them some success and even then they couldn't find it in themselves to give him the praise he deserved preferring a series of Messiahs like Ardiles, Hoddle and Gross.
GG - legend, and always will be.
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Fair enough, but the vote is as one-sided as Mike Riley during a match between Man Utd and Arsenal!!!Kiwi Gooner wrote:Hmmm... if it were that silly a question we wouldn't have such a mixed bag of responses...
And I expect it to stay that way.Yes, there will be gooners that aren't happy with what George done with regards the bung; and probably even more, like flash, that are pissed off with him for going to Spurs. Yet despite both those things, you'd have to be a really unappreciative and cold-hearted bastard to not acknowledge that Graham was and will remain an Arsenal Legend - a very good player and a great manager, who contributed enormously and positively to our history.
