THE WENGER THREAD

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9 years too late but the day I never thought would come finally has

I'm not sure what I found the hardest yesterday - watching the outpouring of grief from former players, managers who hated him before his lobotomy but magically seem to love him now (eh Sir Alex, Mark Hughes etc), or watching Ivan Gazidis be tasked with leading us into a bright new era.

I'm delighted SFB is leaving. For me there won't be a single tear shed and he has been one of the three who has virtually destroyed everything I love about a football club that was one of the most important things in my life for 40 years, but nor will there be wild celebrations all the while that odious wig wearing c.unt is still at the helm and employing insincere, untrustworthy, incompetent cocks like Gazidis who I wouldn't trust to pick his own belly button fluff let alone a leading PL / European manager.

Mikel Arteta will be the soft sop choice of this board - a man who will be eternally grateful for the opportunity and become Wenger lite.

A great opportunity for someone to come in and write the next glorious chapter in our history.......except it won't pan out that way with the fucking cocks we have running the club. I only hope the protests that were 90% aimed at SFB and which were only really effective when fans stopped showing up (that's the truth) continue all the while that the even bigger problem at the club still remains. I can't even be bothered to provide the latest update on his other "franchises" - let's just say that for all the optimists dreaming that we'll appoint someone who will have us up there with City, Liverpool etc, might want to take a closer look at how this Grade A c.unt runs his other teams

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Allgunsblazin wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:34 am
northbank123 wrote:
Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:49 pm
Not that it hugely matters but does anybody really think that Wenger has freely accepted that he’s not the best person for the job any more after his years of arrogance and all this bollocks about seeing contracts out?

No bollocks about leaving to explore new oportunities or any of the other ***** which would make it seem his choice.

Kroenke does not give two shits about Arsenal as a football club but let’s be honest he’s not an idiot. Wenger just about delivered enough to keep the club commercially competitive, was happy to keep the pursestrings tight and deflected flak. For a while now he has been performing as badly as any manager realistically could, burning through money (both transfers and wages) and the stadium has been half empty for months on end.

He’s been forced out / sacked. Forget football, it’s a no-brainer business decision.

The 5pm rushed tv interview was interesting timing, after "The Arrogant Fucker" let the cat out of the bag for his own egotistical swan song....
I never watched the staged what a great :blah: :blah: :blah: he was, but all these reports of players in tears at the news, on please pass me the bucket, more like tears of laughter....
Sorry if I sound disrespectful to this shadow of what he once was, but I feel the fucker held this club to ransom, and has done more damage than good, once all his yes men had been crushed, Josh Kroenke stabbed the fucker in the back, like he had done over his 22 year rule to a lot of good players and personnel.
He became a tyrant in my eyes, and the half empty stadia spoke volumes, well done to those who stayed away , I went once for the AC Milan game.
Now we will have to put up with Der Fuhrers final 30 days in his bunker, getting daily plaudits of how he changed football.
God help us through the charade!....




I have read and heard some shameful and unacceptable things about our players over the years, but this for me tops the lot - grown men crying about a manager leaving the club ? Seriously ?? It tells you everything about the bunch of ball-less pussies we have playing for us now, that a manager leaving is more upsetting than their continued failures on the pitch :roll: FFS will ye grow a pair ye bunch of w**kers :oops: :oops: :oops:

It was very funny to see the story in one of the papers about how upset the players were, and a little further down the page it had a photo of wilshere driving away with his big beaming smile :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Sean wrote:
Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:08 am
I can't believe it! It's finally happening :barscarf:

Thank you for the first eight years, but fuck you very much for the last ten years, Arsene. He should have left in 2008 or been sacked by 2011, but thankfully this era of deliberate stagnation after Dein's departure is over. It will finally be exciting to see what happens next. Hopefully no more frustrating slow sideways passing to eventual failure, no more park level defending, no more forwards who square it instead of shooting on goal. The ball and chain will finally be removed!

Hopefully this is not a cruel trick to test the water. Will it be better if Cashburton remains empty, to make it clear that he is not wanted, or will it be better if we suddenly have full houses until the end of the season? IMO, he has lost the right to a 'good send-off' a long time ago. I don't think I'll bother with any league games until the last one. Winning the Europa would be nice, but TOF could never win European trophies. Seeing the media eulogize about him for the next month will be pretty nauseating, even if they tacitly admit that post-Invincibles he was nothing special and his changing of philosophy to this shite Barca-lite way was for the worse. He won't be getting any offers from Real Madrid now, that's for sure. He won't like international management as he likes the day to day of club life, but that'll be the best he could get in Europe, only the Chinese would be mad enough to hire him for a club job, unless he manages a French pub side.

It'll be interesting to see who the new manager is. Obviously he will have a tough job to clean up the shit that TOF will left behind; an unbalanced squad, overpaid players, over-rated and uncoached pubber youths and the inane Socialist Wage Structure. Damningly, who the new man is actually matters less than simply getting TOF out. Ancellotti or Allegri would be fine. Simeone would be great, but a pipe-dream. PV4 at least knows the club and was a warrior in the vein of TA6. A long-term manager would be fine if he is winning or is clearly doing his best against the sheikhs and oligarchs. No-one can be allowed to hold the club in the palm of his hand like this ever again.

ARSENAL! ARSENAL! ARSENAL! :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:
Great post! I said the same to my father over and over. We had many discussions from 2010. Father Pro V me against Wenger staying.

Don't get me wrong he changed football in the nineties and early 2000's. Plus 20 years in CL was also quite a achievement when the 'Big Petrol Bucks' came a calling. However having one person that runs a company is never good idea in the long term and Wenger went on for at least 6-8 years to long.

Anyway the fun now begins guys and gals as for the next 2-3 years we will be going through some great highs but I feel some pretty terrible lows........................ Still not a single point on the road this year is pretty low bar. SO :shock:

:roll: :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:

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Not just saying it now, but I always liked and rated neil ashton as a journo -

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... n-manager/

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TOF was just lucky with his timing and we made him not the other way around.

We were a big club with plenty of recent success when he turned up as a nobody - George had delivered titles, cup doubles and euro glory albeit his football had turned stale.

TOF inherited that defence and DB10 and was able to take his pick from the french market at that time which was untapped. He rode the back of that combination until the rest of the league started to get serious and then he stank the place out.

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Perryashburtongroves wrote:
Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:41 am
I haven't felt like this in a long time. It's over, boys, it's over. The pain, the misery, the feeling of frustration. It's over. No matter what happens now, this horrible fucking chapter is finished. We've seen it out, we've seen him off. Let us build again and come together, let us make this a new start, a chance to be who we should be.

Good call Perry :D

It's been a long time coming. One of the last truly great away matches I saw up be in the Cumbria wilds was the 4-1 at Blackburn.

There have been many long journey's home over the last 10 years when I felt What the F*** was AFC doing keeping him on.

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Just read the Neil Ashton piece after submitting my last post - he is bang on and credit to him for saying it as it is.

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augie wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 7:55 am
Not just saying it now, but I always liked and rated neil ashton as a journo -

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... n-manager/
"Now you need a VHS video recorder to remind yourself of the time when Arsenal were really good."

:D :D :D

Great article - at least one journo has the balls to call it like it is

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I can't believe it has finally happened, and not a moment too soon. Growing up, i seen Wenger as a hero, and i was proud he was our manager, but post 2006, that all changed. One of the things that i used to admire about him was he was a winner, but after the Emirates move, he developed a loser mentality, in which he constantly re-defined success, to suit whatever mediocre position we were in, in the league. I have said this before, but i remember seeing an interview with Wenger after the 2002/2003 season, and he was bitterly disappointed we hadn't won the league - yet we had won the FA cup and finished 2nd.If you handed him that scenario any time in the last decade, it would have been a success in his eyes, that shows how his mentality had changed. Add that to him jumping around, whenever we finished 4th, and it shows he had become a loser.
As others have said, he ruined my support for the club, as there was a time in which i would never miss watching a game, and my mood would depend on what result we got, but now i'l watch if i have fuck all else to do, and i am numb to the outcome of the game.
The glowing tributes to him are at odds to his actions in the last number of years, in which he defended extortionate ticket prices(more than once), blamed fans for defeats, and became arrogant beyond belief to anyone questioning him. Thanks for the first decade, but after that you were a nasty, arrogant, hypocritical loser, who destroyed a great club for many lifelong fans.

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Retro Gunner wrote:
Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:06 pm
northbank123 wrote:
Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:15 am
Thank fuck.

Of all the posts on here since the news broke, this was all that was required.....the perfect summation.

All I’d add, is that I can’t comprehend the “thank you Arsene” claptrap I’m reading, particularly from posters that (quite rightly) called him every name under the sun, accused him of all sorts and clamoured for his departure, preferably in ignominy.

Personally, his credit in my bank of sentimentality ran out 10 years ago and he’s been slipping ever further into the red with each passing season. The mismanagement and inevitable failure of the years since 2004 far outweigh the success of the preceding years and most of all for the arrogant, stubborn, dismissive, ego driven nature of those years of decline. I can’t forgive him for damaging my love for the Club and indeed, for football in general. It remains to be seen whether that spark can be re-ignited.

We have nothing to thank the man for, because he has negligently and wilfully overseen the slow, but sure, demise of our Club. Clearly he’s been pushed, because he would NEVER have walked honourably and willingly. His lunatic ego and greed would have seen him cling on for as long as possible, even if that meant reducing the finest footballing institution I knew, to complete rubble.

Pride, arrogance, dishonesty and above all, ego. Good riddance to the mad bastard.
2008 :roll:

2 years after reaching a cl final, 3 after The Invincibles :lol:

There's some pwapa hard core supporters on here :roll:

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So right about now Wengers phone should be buzzing with Real Madrid, Bayern, PSG, France all wanting him. Thats what we have been told over the years anyway.

As for his replacement. Ideally one of Low, Simeone, Allegri, Ancelotti, Tuchel, Enrique. These are the managers we would have to fight for, and all could very well say no due to better alternatives. Then there are the people who would take the job without thought - Vieira, Rodgers, Benitez, Arteta. If it comes to that, and we must choose from the second list, it has to be Paddy.

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Fuck off Wenger! You massive cunnt!

I have mixed feelings about this to be honest. Glad the fucker has finally been told to go of course ... but I wanted him hounded out in disgrace.

Justice has not been done here. Giving this treacherous, destructive, self-serving fraud a glorious send off disgusts me.

THIS MAN DESTROYED ARSENAL FOOTBALL CLUB!

That must not be forgotten! Never!

Where justice has been done is that the man who played a big part in turning our football club into a money obsessed corporation has finally seen that come back to bite him on the arse!

Make no mistake, Wenger has been sacked ... but NOT for football reasons. The moment his mis-mamagement started costing the club their precious profits, he is gone. If it was football reasons or Wenger's decency in recognising it was time for change then he could have just as easily resigned on a dozen or more occasions in the past decade! Everyone here knows what those moments are. Absolutely disgraceful that he survived them all.

Thank God for the relative sanctuary of this forum because some of the nonsense I have seen elsewhere makes me want to vomit.

But now more than ever I hope Atletico batter us in the EL. I want a new beginning next season where I can get behind the team again but I am not backing Wenger or anything to do with him. I hope his reign ends with one final humiliation.

The Emirates for me will be a no-go zone for a good while yet though. It is contaminated by the toxic waste of Wenger and his followers.

I detest the man and will for the rest of my life. He is the man that made me turn against my own team. The man who made me give up my season ticket.

Fuck the memories ... the bad memories far outweigh the good ones anyway and the damage Wenger has done will last forever. Highbury isnt being rebuilt is it ? The fanbase will never be properly united again either!

So FUCK YOU WENGER! You poisonous, hypocritical, narcissistic wanker!

(sorry for the rant but ... )

P.S. Has Martin Keown poured petrol over himself and set himself on fire yet? Go on Martin, you know its the last thing you can do for your Lord and Master.

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augie wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 7:55 am
Not just saying it now, but I always liked and rated neil ashton as a journo -

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... n-manager/
You've obviously never watched the cowardly flip flopping brave-after-the-fact cùnt on Sunday Supplement then.... :roll: :lol:

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Anyone left wondering why some of us were calling for his head 9 years ago need only look at some of the Arsenal classics they were showing on Sky last night. Go back to 2004 - power, pace, brave defending and two of the best strikers in world football.

Roll on to 2009 and the supposed great 4-4 at Anfield. In the starting line up Fabianski, Gibbs, Silvestre, Song, Bendtner, Denilson. Roll forward 9 years - Cech, Mustafi, Xhaka, Iwobi, Chambers.

It hasn't improved one jot in 9 years. Pure and simple. Two or three excellent players then - Fabregas, Arshavin before his fat and lazy days, Van Persie, Nasri in his pomp and a bucket load of shit. Now - Ozil once in every ten games, Aubameyang and a bucket load of shit

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