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- Perryashburtongroves
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If the old fraudulent, specialist in failure *word censored* thinks he's going to sign a new contract, it is the duty of every match going Arsenal fan who wants him gone to protest. Get those banners back out, those signs, whatever it takes. Full-on protests, walk-outs, whatever it takes to drive him out. He simply cannot be allowed to stay and cause further damage.
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Can't wait for the annual "Bannergate" drama. John Cross and his luvvies will be in full on 'be careful what you wish for' mode, whilst half the sheep inside the bowl will shoot down the dissent. The home game against Norwich was a joke and proved that there are still more pricks inside the stadium who won't have a word said against their Lord & Master
Hopeless situation - we'll finish top 4 and he'll sign a new deal
Hopeless situation - we'll finish top 4 and he'll sign a new deal
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This ^ 100%. No banner or protest or an idiot getting a Wenger tattoo as part of a bet and a pathetic effort at a social media presence will remove Wenger. Ever.SteveO 35 wrote:Can't wait for the annual "Bannergate" drama. John Cross and his luvvies will be in full on 'be careful what you wish for' mode, whilst half the sheep inside the bowl will shoot down the dissent. The home game against Norwich was a joke and proved that there are still more pricks inside the stadium who won't have a word said against their Lord & Master
Hopeless situation - we'll finish top 4 and he'll sign a new deal
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I sure the scouser were told the same thing about their owners....DB10GOONER wrote:This ^ 100%. No banner or protest or an idiot getting a Wenger tattoo as part of a bet and a pathetic effort at a social media presence will remove Wenger. Ever.SteveO 35 wrote:Can't wait for the annual "Bannergate" drama. John Cross and his luvvies will be in full on 'be careful what you wish for' mode, whilst half the sheep inside the bowl will shoot down the dissent. The home game against Norwich was a joke and proved that there are still more pricks inside the stadium who won't have a word said against their Lord & Master
Hopeless situation - we'll finish top 4 and he'll sign a new deal
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NickF wrote:I sure the scouser were told the same thing about their owners....DB10GOONER wrote:This ^ 100%. No banner or protest or an idiot getting a Wenger tattoo as part of a bet and a pathetic effort at a social media presence will remove Wenger. Ever.SteveO 35 wrote:Can't wait for the annual "Bannergate" drama. John Cross and his luvvies will be in full on 'be careful what you wish for' mode, whilst half the sheep inside the bowl will shoot down the dissent. The home game against Norwich was a joke and proved that there are still more pricks inside the stadium who won't have a word said against their Lord & Master
Hopeless situation - we'll finish top 4 and he'll sign a new deal
it might....just might get through to Wenger....
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How can you compare the two? Totally different situations. One: the scourers only wanted the owners out. Two: the scourers did not have an individual that had a death grip on the club and the support of a huge portion of the fans.NickF wrote:I sure the scouser were told the same thing about their owners....DB10GOONER wrote:This ^ 100%. No banner or protest or an idiot getting a Wenger tattoo as part of a bet and a pathetic effort at a social media presence will remove Wenger. Ever.SteveO 35 wrote:Can't wait for the annual "Bannergate" drama. John Cross and his luvvies will be in full on 'be careful what you wish for' mode, whilst half the sheep inside the bowl will shoot down the dissent. The home game against Norwich was a joke and proved that there are still more pricks inside the stadium who won't have a word said against their Lord & Master
Hopeless situation - we'll finish top 4 and he'll sign a new deal
Any protest by WOBs will only have a minority of our fans onside. It's a shame but it is true.
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The difference with Liverpool is that the fans were all behind the protests.
The point is that the considerable majority of home fans are either blindly pro-Wenger or will otherwise suddenly take some moral stand about 'abusing' the manager (as though the absolute dogs abuse the likes of Don Howe used to take from the terraces was incomparable to a few mild banners and boos for Wenger). That is never going to change at the home games because of the sort of people the ground is filled with.
Away games aren't quite the same and I have been at some where there hasn't been a single voice protesting against the anti-Wenger sentiment. But people will still get funny about banners.
The point is that the considerable majority of home fans are either blindly pro-Wenger or will otherwise suddenly take some moral stand about 'abusing' the manager (as though the absolute dogs abuse the likes of Don Howe used to take from the terraces was incomparable to a few mild banners and boos for Wenger). That is never going to change at the home games because of the sort of people the ground is filled with.
Away games aren't quite the same and I have been at some where there hasn't been a single voice protesting against the anti-Wenger sentiment. But people will still get funny about banners.
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A walk-out or a boycott of a game would be more visible. I can't remember which game it was last year which loads didn't turn up for but it got the message across.
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Despite what the naysayers, poo-pooers, begrudgers or AKB's say......its a fact that the club have sat up and taken notice of the anti-Wenger protests.
Evidenced by their attempts at censorship at City and the Emirates. Also their offer to meet with fans affected at City.
These protests have slowly been picked up by the media and now instead of their lazy journalism and cliched praise and sympathy of Wenger, some are actually questioning and criticising him.
Nobody ever expected a banner to be produced and then Wenger to immediately leave. But it will affect him and his ego and impact on his ability to sign a new deal.
The protests have not been sustained enough for various reasons, but I believe they do hit him where it hurts. He hates to be questioned, criticised, put on the spot
Evidenced by their attempts at censorship at City and the Emirates. Also their offer to meet with fans affected at City.
These protests have slowly been picked up by the media and now instead of their lazy journalism and cliched praise and sympathy of Wenger, some are actually questioning and criticising him.
Nobody ever expected a banner to be produced and then Wenger to immediately leave. But it will affect him and his ego and impact on his ability to sign a new deal.
The protests have not been sustained enough for various reasons, but I believe they do hit him where it hurts. He hates to be questioned, criticised, put on the spot
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a walk out was attempted last season and failed miserably.Perryashburtongroves wrote:A walk-out or a boycott of a game would be more visible. I can't remember which game it was last year which loads didn't turn up for but it got the message across.
you have to bear in mind that the majority of the people who now go to the Emirates are STILL behind Wenger.
that will not change until:
1) we fall out of the top 4
2) we start losing the star players like Sanchez
everything else is irrelevant to the AKBs.
we always lose to Chelsea, we never compete for the title, this season is no different to any other season of the past decade.
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I don't believe it's true that the majority of Arsenal fans are still behind Wenger, and I think that probably now extends even to those inside the stadium. While the new breed of 'customer' may not have the same passion for the club and its history as those of us who have felt increasingly disenfranchised since the move to the soulless bowl, they pay a lot of money and I believe that, if you'll excuse the pun, the penny is finally dropping that they are getting poor value.
While I accept that any organised protests are not going to be universally taken up (the Johnny-Come-Latelys don't go in for such uncouth behaviour) I believe they are unlikely to be encountered by the sort of resistance and pro-Wenger response that we saw at the Norwich game at the end of last season. These people may not be passionate about football, but they are not entirely stupid and they know that they are paying a lot of money for little in return, however they may measure it.
Hull at home is as good as it gets in terms of testing the water, so I hope to see some posters and banners and perhaps even some (initially) attempts at relatively polite chants to try to appeal to as many as possible while getting the message across. Though as Sky TV are covering the match, a chorus of "Gary Neville, he's a wanker, he's a wanker" might achieve a broad consensus......
While I accept that any organised protests are not going to be universally taken up (the Johnny-Come-Latelys don't go in for such uncouth behaviour) I believe they are unlikely to be encountered by the sort of resistance and pro-Wenger response that we saw at the Norwich game at the end of last season. These people may not be passionate about football, but they are not entirely stupid and they know that they are paying a lot of money for little in return, however they may measure it.
Hull at home is as good as it gets in terms of testing the water, so I hope to see some posters and banners and perhaps even some (initially) attempts at relatively polite chants to try to appeal to as many as possible while getting the message across. Though as Sky TV are covering the match, a chorus of "Gary Neville, he's a wanker, he's a wanker" might achieve a broad consensus......
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You are making the common and incorrect assumption that all AKBs are JCLs and only the old skool Gooners want Wenger gone. There are a huge number of loyal die hard old skool proper Gooners that will object to any protest in the stadium. Many of these fans still support Wenger through concerns for what comes after him. They have been convinced and blindsided by some, or all of, the "who could replace him" or "he has earned the right" or "be careful what you wish for" arguments. Also there are a number of old skool Gooners that believe in the old addage "my Arsenal right or wrong" and won't condone negative comment about the club the players or the manager.Bob Bayliss wrote:I don't believe it's true that the majority of Arsenal fans are still behind Wenger, and I think that probably now extends even to those inside the stadium. While the new breed of 'customer' may not have the same passion for the club and its history as those of us who have felt increasingly disenfranchised since the move to the soulless bowl, they pay a lot of money and I believe that, if you'll excuse the pun, the penny is finally dropping that they are getting poor value.
While I accept that any organised protests are not going to be universally taken up (the Johnny-Come-Latelys don't go in for such uncouth behaviour) I believe they are unlikely to be encountered by the sort of resistance and pro-Wenger response that we saw at the Norwich game at the end of last season. These people may not be passionate about football, but they are not entirely stupid and they know that they are paying a lot of money for little in return, however they may measure it.
Hull at home is as good as it gets in terms of testing the water, so I hope to see some posters and banners and perhaps even some (initially) attempts at relatively polite chants to try to appeal to as many as possible while getting the message across. Though as Sky TV are covering the match, a chorus of "Gary Neville, he's a wanker, he's a wanker" might achieve a broad consensus......
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I am unsure the way forward for any protest/banner/march on the stadium this season but I think everyone needs to face up to the fact that Wenger has been OFFERED a new contract and that HE WILL ACCEPT this unless there is a huge, sustained protest from now until the end of the season.
I also think that if he does accept that the future of the club as we know it is in some question (indeed it might already be too late to save it)
I actually think the club probably knows this, but will be happy for Wenger to continue and to therefore drive the remaining hard core of fans out of the club. The club has made it perfectly clear that it prefers day trippers coming a few times a season, and spending loads on merchandise and food.
Trophies are unimportant, I dont even think that a top 4 finish is now all that important if you consider the increased riches the PL provides. As long as Arsenal finish in the top 17 of the PL then Kroenke will be happy. If we have to sell Sanchez then so be it. Kroenke will probably hand Wenger a bonus for getting a good transfer price. This is Arsenal 2017
I also think that if he does accept that the future of the club as we know it is in some question (indeed it might already be too late to save it)
I actually think the club probably knows this, but will be happy for Wenger to continue and to therefore drive the remaining hard core of fans out of the club. The club has made it perfectly clear that it prefers day trippers coming a few times a season, and spending loads on merchandise and food.
Trophies are unimportant, I dont even think that a top 4 finish is now all that important if you consider the increased riches the PL provides. As long as Arsenal finish in the top 17 of the PL then Kroenke will be happy. If we have to sell Sanchez then so be it. Kroenke will probably hand Wenger a bonus for getting a good transfer price. This is Arsenal 2017
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Hull is the next home league game Saturday @12.30PM, but much too soon to properly organise & publicise any serious protests. If Arsenal beat Sutton & are in the FA Cup 6th round there won't be another home league fixture confirmed until Man City Saturday APRIL 1st @15.00.
Demonstrations & protests are urgently needed by supporters against a new Wenger contract, I would suggest after the Bayern Munich CL games are over is the best time to protest. That gives plenty of time to organise demonstrations.
So a potential protest has to wait until Man City Saturday APRIL 1st @15.00. April Fools Day
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Demonstrations & protests are urgently needed by supporters against a new Wenger contract, I would suggest after the Bayern Munich CL games are over is the best time to protest. That gives plenty of time to organise demonstrations.
So a potential protest has to wait until Man City Saturday APRIL 1st @15.00. April Fools Day
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