Bournemouth (A) | PL | Tue 3 Jan 19:45

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Re: Bournemouth (A) | PL | Tue 3 Jan 19:45

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The most ridiculous part of tonight, is that with 20 minutes gone, it was clear they were outplaying us, with zero sign of us having any chances, yet Wenger was quite content to leave things, as they were. Only Coquelin went off injured, we wouldn't have seen a sub made, until midway through the 2nd half. How can you call yourself a manager, and sit there hoping things will change against all logic.

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Re: Bournemouth (A) | PL | Tue 3 Jan 19:45

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Nos89 wrote:
rodders999 wrote:We need to put faith in Ospina or go hard for a keeper in January but whatever happens Cech needs to go. Really poor for both goals and you can forget about him ever saving a penalty.

Unless it's hit straight at him (like that chance at the end) he's fucked. He's cumbersome around the penalty box, distribution is shite and sadly he's past it.

Time to go.
Sadly, it does seem the case that Cech needs to be rested. Ospina has a good record of clean sheets in the PL. We've still got Szceszney on the books.
You were doing so well, right up until that last sentence. :lol: :wink:

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Re: Bournemouth (A) | PL | Tue 3 Jan 19:45

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We were out thought, out fought, out strategised, out muscled, out played and out footballed for the majority of it because Wenger set us up wrong to start with. Ramsey in the middle with Coq and Xhaka is a waste of time. Bournemouth had free run in our midfield.

Something else I've noticed; Iwobi reminds me of the worst parts of Pogba's game - shockingly loose first touch and desperate lunges to try regain control. Him and Bellerin were a disgrace tonight. :x :|

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Re: Bournemouth (A) | PL | Tue 3 Jan 19:45

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That had to be Bellerin's worst performance in an Arsenal shirt..Best right back in the Premier League?? Mustafi, one brilliant tackle apart, was nearly as bad..
Iwobi was like Bambi tonight, all legs and no grace..Ramsey is such a frustrating player, why take one decisive touch when you can take twenty two indecisive ones? Giroud, Man of the match..,did he touch the ball in the first half?
I thought apart from Sanchez, Perez was our best player tonight.. Does anyone else think he resembles a young Steve Bould?

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Re: Bournemouth (A) | PL | Tue 3 Jan 19:45

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Nos89 wrote:
rodders999 wrote:Ozil better have been shitting through the eye of a needle for the last 4 days because if he's sat out the last two games because of the sniffles he can fuck right off.

We're not exactly a team of warriors are we? A big game you say? Sorry can't make it I've got a bit of ire.

FUCK OFF.
Blimey, the guy didn't even play and he still gets slated. What difference would he have made in the conceding of 3 goals? Defending is not his game.
Pretend for a second we were serious title contenders - it doesn't look great that one of your most important players misses games at a key time of the season due to "illness". That's why I said he better be fucked but I can't shake the feeling he's just got a runny nose.

Could you see Keown, Adams, Wrighty, Vieira etc. etc. etc. misisng games through illness? Could you fuck!!

And no he wouldn't have prevented any lv their goals but he could have created/scored some at the other end and if he was there it would have meant Ramsey not playing which is worth at least a goal start.

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Re: Bournemouth (A) | PL | Tue 3 Jan 19:45

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Oh and for those that can be arsed there's a 30 second clip on twatter of Sanchez losing his shit at the full time whistle. Anyone who reckons he's going to put pen to paper should be fucking committed. He's off.

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Re: Bournemouth (A) | PL | Tue 3 Jan 19:45

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3 goals should be enough to win any game. wtf was Giroud doing wasting 30 seconds dancing in front of the crowd after scoring when we only had a couple of minutes left? Ramsey - please!! That was atrocious. Well played to Bournemouth, they deserved the 3 points.

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Re: Bournemouth (A) | PL | Tue 3 Jan 19:45

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On the positive side I thought Perez was good and would combine well with Sanchez if they played together more regularly.

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Re: Bournemouth (A) | PL | Tue 3 Jan 19:45

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You know im reading that this game 'proves' Eddie Howe is worthy of replacing Wenger. His team capitulated and lost a three goal lead at home. Yet the irony is, thats the sort of thing that you expect with Wenger. So the press are sickly suggesting Howe is worthy, because this game ran like so many of the freak shows that have befallen Arsenal under Wenger.

Im thinking, is this a sick joke? What kind of black humour is it, to genuinely suggest that Howe is worthy of replacing Wenger, because his teams play attacking football and a defensively suspect. its as if, a 'like for like' Wenger replacement is being sought - flaws and all. 'Oh Eddie Howes teams are unorganized at the back - that makes him suitable for Arsenal and Wenger's replacement'.

WTF is it with people who are so invested in the idea that Wenger is Arsenal, that they are looking for a mini-me replacement, to the point being that its a good thing that Howe shares Wengers worst habits? Its just like when the some people say Simeone wouldnt be a fit for Arsenal, because his style is different to Wengers. Which is what, organized, disciplined and strong?

Im sick of Wenger being the centre point of the universe at Arsenal.

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Re: Bournemouth (A) | PL | Tue 3 Jan 19:45

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What pissed me off, even more than the obvious list of stuff that happened, was that at 0-2 down with 45 seconds to go of added time in the first half, we get a free kick, and instead of lumping it into their box, Kos plays sideways to Iwobi who immediately loses it and Ramsey gets yellow for bringing their player down who goes steaming through. There's under a minute to play and we're playing Giroud up front, who can head the ball, remember?

Perez deserves his chance, he's quite a neat player and a lot better than Iwobi who has probably been given too much game time of late. Ox is worth a place too. I would persist with Xhaka, just got a feeling he'll come good. Ospina is a must for Preston, and if he does well, keep him in. Mustafi has been very good, but was off the pace a bit on his return, apart from a great tackle. Bellerin just had an off-night.

Poor old Alexis, just hope rumours about him buying a house in the country are well-founded, though seemingly in Kent and round the M25 to Cobham, rather than a horrendous journey the other way to London Colney. BA just started direct flights to Santiago, he's probably on one already....

Finally, the tosspot of a ref played a few seconds under 6 mins at the end, and did you see that great ball on its way when he blew?

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Re: Bournemouth (A) | PL | Tue 3 Jan 19:45

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Block93 wrote:What pissed me off, even more than the obvious list of stuff that happened, was that at 0-2 down with 45 seconds to go of added time in the first half, we get a free kick, and instead of lumping it into their box, Kos plays sideways to Iwobi who immediately loses it and Ramsey gets yellow for bringing their player down who goes steaming through. There's under a minute to play and we're playing Giroud up front, who can head the ball, remember?

Perez deserves his chance, he's quite a neat player and a lot better than Iwobi who has probably been given too much game time of late. Ox is worth a place too. I would persist with Xhaka, just got a feeling he'll come good. Ospina is a must for Preston, and if he does well, keep him in. Mustafi has been very good, but was off the pace a bit on his return, apart from a great tackle. Bellerin just had an off-night.

Poor old Alexis, just hope rumours about him buying a house in the country are well-founded, though seemingly in Kent and round the M25 to Cobham, rather than a horrendous journey the other way to London Colney. BA just started direct flights to Santiago, he's probably on one already....

Finally, the tosspot of a ref played a few seconds under 6 mins at the end, and did you see that great ball on its way when he blew?
Would you honestly blame Sanchez for leaving Arsenal, the one true winner we have being berated by Aaron "ive only done it over 1/2 a season but done it for Wales for years" fucking useless Ramsey. Could that be a sign of tension where Ramsey knows he would never be offered a contract that is on the table for Alexis.

It is criminal that a player of Sanchez's stature has to put up with the shite around him. Theo, Ox and Ramsey should all be sold to play for his new contract. None of them are worthy of the badge.

Sanchez would be worthy of a place in the Invincibles side, he is that good.

Looking at the team lineup, I have now see enough of Perez to concede he is a good buy for the money we paid. It's time for him to start with Ozil and Sanchez behind Giroud. He has bags of energy and is a much better finisher than Theo.

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Re: Bournemouth (A) | PL | Tue 3 Jan 19:45

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That was a fucking pathetic performance and every reason why that fucking imbecile in charge shouldn't be anywhere near managing this club. Words fucking fail me now with that *word censored* and if anyone thinks that shit like last night is acceptable then they are fucking responsible for destroying the club too.

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Re: Bournemouth (A) | PL | Tue 3 Jan 19:45

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Any other team that wants to beat us should watch this game replay. To many of the lower teams give us too much respect & sit back & let us attack them. Bournemouth just attacked from the start & didn't stop until they were 3 up. Even when we were 3-3 against 10 men they still had a great chance to win it. Pity they didn't. They had energy, pace & fight. We never woke up until the last 15 mins. They deserved to win. What price P.N.E. to win ?? :barscarf: :barscarf:

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Re: Bournemouth (A) | PL | Tue 3 Jan 19:45

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Perez is actually a good player, the technique for that finish was fuking brilliant.

Now forget the fact Wenger is criminally under using Perez. This is a 16m pound player, who is used as nothing more than a luxury player, yet still the apologists will cling to the falsehood that Wenger doesnt have the 'resources' to compete. And its not just Perez, Chambers was a luxury signing, and Welbeck also seldom features - even when fit. How many other managers have multiple players around the 15m mark that are used passively, yet still enjoy the benefit of the doubt of being designated a manager working on a 'budget'.

Sometime its like the twilight zone, and opposite day. Where these arguments put forward by Wenger fan boys are not only false, but back to front. NO!!! Wenger is not working on a small budget, he is in fact working on a very generous and flexible budget.

So for me, its not just the poor results, but its also the lack of accountability, the refusal to take responsibility, and the making shit up. The truth is incidental, as Wenger , his fan boys and mates in the media just make shit up. Create this false narrative when the reality says otherwise. Our wage bill is right on 200m, whilst the highest payers, Man United are 220m, meaning we pay 90% of the wages Man United pay. But hey fuk it - Wenger doesn't have the resources and works on a budget, and thus needs to be excused for the poor results.

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Re: Bournemouth (A) | PL | Tue 3 Jan 19:45

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Instead of rushing back to the halfway line and trying to grab a winning goal against a 10 man team on their last legs

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