Agree with this, Santi still has quality to offer when he's fit so that makes sense. But giving Mertersacker a new deal baffles me, I don't want him anywhere near the team!!SteveO 35 wrote:Santi worthy of a 12 month rolling deal IMO.....as for the other fanny? FFS he wasn't worthy of a 12 day contract the day we signed him !
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I can only hope that signing the BFG is because Allergi is coming this summer and will be playing with 3 at the back....
A man can hope, can't he?
A man can hope, can't he?
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And the bizarre thing here is that we all moan about how the club is now run as a corporate business who've turned their hole to the fan base and have little regard for on field success, yet the one time you would actually like to see them make a cold, calculated business decision and offload players who no longer offer any "value" they bandy about 80 odd grand a week contracts instead. WTF.Henry Norris 1913 wrote:2 very sentimental contract extensions, I'm sure we'll see another once the VT has been secured
There is no room for sentiment here, Arsenal do not owe Per Mertesaker a living. We do not need to feel bad about offloading him, we got use out of him since he joined, he made millions as a result. That's where the relationship ends, or should end, but as we've seen before Arsenal seems to be the only club that feels they need to dish out multi million pound contracts to players they 100% know have little or nothing to offer the club.
Incredible.......and then we play the poor mouth card on top of it! Jesus wept
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Having Cazorla on the pitch gives us a lot more going forward than playing two defensive minded midfielders alongside eachother, and you can see that not having him in the team makes such a big difference to us. A player with his ability is someone who you can't let go.rodders999 wrote:Agreed. The sad fact is that Cazorla would as useful a "squad player" as Rosicky, Peanut Head and Arteta were. We are not a charity, why pay someone 80 grand a week just to hang around the place? I'm available if that's the deal FFS!augie wrote:wilko49er wrote:Santi squad player no problem.
BFG get rid off! What is the deluded one going to do make him captain again and bench one of our defenders. Suicidal!! The tall german is spent, and will offer nothing.
No point keeping a squad player that is constantly injured buddy - that 90k (minimum) per week could be better used paying a replacement that is available for selection and ready to bring something to the party
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Nobody here is questioning his ability it's his fitness, or lack of, that is the concern. He's not going to be much use to us having all that ability when he's crocked 80% of the time.....same case as we had with Rosicky.
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ConnorGeno wrote:Having Cazorla on the pitch gives us a lot more going forward than playing two defensive minded midfielders alongside eachother, and you can see that not having him in the team makes such a big difference to us. A player with his ability is someone who you can't let go.rodders999 wrote:Agreed. The sad fact is that Cazorla would as useful a "squad player" as Rosicky, Peanut Head and Arteta were. We are not a charity, why pay someone 80 grand a week just to hang around the place? I'm available if that's the deal FFS!augie wrote:wilko49er wrote:Santi squad player no problem.
BFG get rid off! What is the deluded one going to do make him captain again and bench one of our defenders. Suicidal!! The tall german is spent, and will offer nothing.
No point keeping a squad player that is constantly injured buddy - that 90k (minimum) per week could be better used paying a replacement that is available for selection and ready to bring something to the party
And how much does it give us when he is in the treatment room ? He spends most of his time in there nowadays and I doubt if fans would support paying huge ticket prices to any player who is spending 90% of his time injured
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Eitherway we're gonna have to pay stupid ticket prices but fans want to go and watch players like Cazorla who can make outstanding plays and win us games. Yeah he's gonna be injury prone but half our team seems to get injured regularly so can say that about a lot more players than Cazorla.augie wrote:ConnorGeno wrote:Having Cazorla on the pitch gives us a lot more going forward than playing two defensive minded midfielders alongside eachother, and you can see that not having him in the team makes such a big difference to us. A player with his ability is someone who you can't let go.rodders999 wrote:Agreed. The sad fact is that Cazorla would as useful a "squad player" as Rosicky, Peanut Head and Arteta were. We are not a charity, why pay someone 80 grand a week just to hang around the place? I'm available if that's the deal FFS!augie wrote:wilko49er wrote:Santi squad player no problem.
BFG get rid off! What is the deluded one going to do make him captain again and bench one of our defenders. Suicidal!! The tall german is spent, and will offer nothing.
No point keeping a squad player that is constantly injured buddy - that 90k (minimum) per week could be better used paying a replacement that is available for selection and ready to bring something to the party
And how much does it give us when he is in the treatment room ? He spends most of his time in there nowadays and I doubt if fans would support paying huge ticket prices to any player who is spending 90% of his time injured
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ConnorGeno wrote:Eitherway we're gonna have to pay stupid ticket prices but fans want to go and watch players like Cazorla who can make outstanding plays and win us games. Yeah he's gonna be injury prone but half our team seems to get injured regularly so can say that about a lot more players than Cazorla.augie wrote:ConnorGeno wrote:Having Cazorla on the pitch gives us a lot more going forward than playing two defensive minded midfielders alongside eachother, and you can see that not having him in the team makes such a big difference to us. A player with his ability is someone who you can't let go.rodders999 wrote:Agreed. The sad fact is that Cazorla would as useful a "squad player" as Rosicky, Peanut Head and Arteta were. We are not a charity, why pay someone 80 grand a week just to hang around the place? I'm available if that's the deal FFS!augie wrote:
No point keeping a squad player that is constantly injured buddy - that 90k (minimum) per week could be better used paying a replacement that is available for selection and ready to bring something to the party
And how much does it give us when he is in the treatment room ? He spends most of his time in there nowadays and I doubt if fans would support paying huge ticket prices to any player who is spending 90% of his time injured
And we have every single time one of our injury prone players got new deals - in fact this place frequently went into meltdown every time rosicky and diaby signed new contracts
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Guess I'm new here and haven't got to see that yet, but if you're saying that about Santi are you gonna be saying the same about Wilshere when he comes back?augie wrote:ConnorGeno wrote:Eitherway we're gonna have to pay stupid ticket prices but fans want to go and watch players like Cazorla who can make outstanding plays and win us games. Yeah he's gonna be injury prone but half our team seems to get injured regularly so can say that about a lot more players than Cazorla.augie wrote:ConnorGeno wrote:Having Cazorla on the pitch gives us a lot more going forward than playing two defensive minded midfielders alongside eachother, and you can see that not having him in the team makes such a big difference to us. A player with his ability is someone who you can't let go.rodders999 wrote:
Agreed. The sad fact is that Cazorla would as useful a "squad player" as Rosicky, Peanut Head and Arteta were. We are not a charity, why pay someone 80 grand a week just to hang around the place? I'm available if that's the deal FFS!
And how much does it give us when he is in the treatment room ? He spends most of his time in there nowadays and I doubt if fans would support paying huge ticket prices to any player who is spending 90% of his time injured
And we have every single time one of our injury prone players got new deals - in fact this place frequently went into meltdown every time rosicky and diaby signed new contracts
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If wilshere comes back and is the same injury prone crock that left us a few months ago, then yes I would get rid of him. Tbf a large section of Gooners on here have wanted him sold for the last 2 or 3 seasons, for attitude and fitness issues
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Firstly, welcome on board.ConnorGeno wrote:Having Cazorla on the pitch gives us a lot more going forward than playing two defensive minded midfielders alongside eachother, and you can see that not having him in the team makes such a big difference to us. A player with his ability is someone who you can't let go.rodders999 wrote:Agreed. The sad fact is that Cazorla would as useful a "squad player" as Rosicky, Peanut Head and Arteta were. We are not a charity, why pay someone 80 grand a week just to hang around the place? I'm available if that's the deal FFS!augie wrote:wilko49er wrote:Santi squad player no problem.
BFG get rid off! What is the deluded one going to do make him captain again and bench one of our defenders. Suicidal!! The tall german is spent, and will offer nothing.
No point keeping a squad player that is constantly injured buddy - that 90k (minimum) per week could be better used paying a replacement that is available for selection and ready to bring something to the party
As for Santi, I'm a fan of his, he's a great player, superb technique and vision. But that is not of enough benefit to the team often enough because he is crocked too often. Same with Rosicky when he was here. Rosicky was one of the best technical passers of a ball I've ever seen but was out injured too often for that ability to be any use to us.
We need players that can put in a lot more than 5 or 10 games a season.... certainly for the money they are on.
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I do agree with that but at this point in time I can't really see any players that we can bring in that are gonna actually make an impact to our team , well any that Arsene will actually go out and spend a good amount of money on.DB10GOONER wrote:Firstly, welcome on board.ConnorGeno wrote:Having Cazorla on the pitch gives us a lot more going forward than playing two defensive minded midfielders alongside eachother, and you can see that not having him in the team makes such a big difference to us. A player with his ability is someone who you can't let go.rodders999 wrote:Agreed. The sad fact is that Cazorla would as useful a "squad player" as Rosicky, Peanut Head and Arteta were. We are not a charity, why pay someone 80 grand a week just to hang around the place? I'm available if that's the deal FFS!augie wrote:wilko49er wrote:Santi squad player no problem.
BFG get rid off! What is the deluded one going to do make him captain again and bench one of our defenders. Suicidal!! The tall german is spent, and will offer nothing.
No point keeping a squad player that is constantly injured buddy - that 90k (minimum) per week could be better used paying a replacement that is available for selection and ready to bring something to the party
As for Santi, I'm a fan of his, he's a great player, superb technique and vision. But that is not of enough benefit to the team often enough because he is crocked too often. Same with Rosicky when he was here. Rosicky was one of the best technical passers of a ball I've ever seen but was out injured too often for that ability to be any use to us.
We need players that can put in a lot more than 5 or 10 games a season.... certainly for the money they are on.
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And there is the crux of the issue and one of the main reasons we need Wenger gone.ConnorGeno wrote:I do agree with that but at this point in time I can't really see any players that we can bring in that are gonna actually make an impact to our team , well any that Arsene will actually go out and spend a good amount of money on.DB10GOONER wrote:Firstly, welcome on board.ConnorGeno wrote:Having Cazorla on the pitch gives us a lot more going forward than playing two defensive minded midfielders alongside eachother, and you can see that not having him in the team makes such a big difference to us. A player with his ability is someone who you can't let go.rodders999 wrote:Agreed. The sad fact is that Cazorla would as useful a "squad player" as Rosicky, Peanut Head and Arteta were. We are not a charity, why pay someone 80 grand a week just to hang around the place? I'm available if that's the deal FFS!augie wrote:
No point keeping a squad player that is constantly injured buddy - that 90k (minimum) per week could be better used paying a replacement that is available for selection and ready to bring something to the party
As for Santi, I'm a fan of his, he's a great player, superb technique and vision. But that is not of enough benefit to the team often enough because he is crocked too often. Same with Rosicky when he was here. Rosicky was one of the best technical passers of a ball I've ever seen but was out injured too often for that ability to be any use to us.
We need players that can put in a lot more than 5 or 10 games a season.... certainly for the money they are on.
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Say Wenger went at the end of the season, Ozil wouldn't stay and Sanchez will probably go aswell. What manager is gonna be available to come in and attract players though?DB10GOONER wrote:And there is the crux of the issue and one of the main reasons we need Wenger gone.ConnorGeno wrote:I do agree with that but at this point in time I can't really see any players that we can bring in that are gonna actually make an impact to our team , well any that Arsene will actually go out and spend a good amount of money on.DB10GOONER wrote:Firstly, welcome on board.ConnorGeno wrote:Having Cazorla on the pitch gives us a lot more going forward than playing two defensive minded midfielders alongside eachother, and you can see that not having him in the team makes such a big difference to us. A player with his ability is someone who you can't let go.rodders999 wrote:
Agreed. The sad fact is that Cazorla would as useful a "squad player" as Rosicky, Peanut Head and Arteta were. We are not a charity, why pay someone 80 grand a week just to hang around the place? I'm available if that's the deal FFS!
As for Santi, I'm a fan of his, he's a great player, superb technique and vision. But that is not of enough benefit to the team often enough because he is crocked too often. Same with Rosicky when he was here. Rosicky was one of the best technical passers of a ball I've ever seen but was out injured too often for that ability to be any use to us.
We need players that can put in a lot more than 5 or 10 games a season.... certainly for the money they are on.
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Spoken like a true AKB.ConnorGeno wrote:
Say Wenger went at the end of the season, Ozil wouldn't stay and Sanchez will probably go aswell. What manager is gonna be available to come in and attract players though?