StatDNA

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General
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You might have heard of this. I think this is a step in the right direction and would yield results if we had a fucking manager who knew what he was doing. For the record I thought we made good signings this summer only to proceed to completely misuse them. This also shows how much Gazidis is pushing for change behind the scenes and the power le fraud continues to enjoy.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... a-analysts

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/03/spor ... .html?_r=0

Here are some of the more controversial quotes.
Toward the end of Park’s first season at Arsenal, the 2011-12 campaign, two of the club’s executives approached Wenger, the team’s seemingly immovable manager, with a proposal. Throughout that year, Arsenal had engaged the services of StatDNA, a sports analytics company based in Chicago. The arrangement was based on exclusivity; Arsenal had paid around $250,000 to ensure that StatDNA would not provide insights for any of its rivals. There had been some skepticism among Wenger’s back-room staff about the value of that deal. Now Ivan Gazidis, Arsenal’s chief executive, and its head of business development, Hendrik Almstadt, wanted to do something even more radical. Rather than making sweeping promises, they focused instead on what analytics might have helped Arsenal avoid. Almstadt, the driving force behind the plan, picked out Chamakh and Park as high-risk signings that a more empirical approach to recruitment would have averted.
StatDNA’s database is now Arsenal’s database, so if Wenger wants to sign a defender, who is, say, 6ft 4in, an excellent reader of the game and an accurate passer, one push of a button will bring up the best options in world football.
Andries Jonker, Arsenal’s new academy head, said in September that the club’s “scouting must be restructured all over again”, while Gazidis has noted that “analytics makes decisions more robust”.
When Wenger mentioned a talented young wing at Spain’s Real Sociedad, he was told that his metrics were not overly impressive. Wenger smiled, and remarked that he would be keen to see how the player, Antoine Griezmann, now one of the most coveted strikers in Europe, had developed.
It is also more in depth. StatDNA focuses not only on individual offensive output, but on defensive metrics, too, factors that are difficult to code. One measure at Arsenal, for example, assesses how frequently defenders make errors: failing to spot an opponent running past them, or losing a one-on-one duel.
Lol.
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Analytics are a good start in determining how a player will fit with your team. Obviously it should not be the end all be all, but it's a start of something.

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Yankee_Gooner_Dandee wrote:Analytics are a good start in determining how a player will fit with your team. Obviously it should not be the end all be all, but it's a start of something.
Absolute horseshit. It's not even any use as "a start" of whatever. Wenger has been crunching stats for the last 20 years and we have won how many PL and CL titles in the last 13? Stats cannot and do not determine what players will and can do in any given situation. Utter bullshit. :roll:

A million different things will determine how a player does at a new club.

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Measuring defensive metrics such as how many errors a player makes like losing a duel or not noticing an attackers run? What constitutes an error is completely subjective and attaching points scores to stuff like that is a completely unnecessary substitute for just watching the game.

Wenger has never bought into the statistical and technological fitness and conditioning coaching that the likes of Verheijen have pushed - something which would probably help with our constant injury issues given how often the same players have broken down over the years.

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I think one of our problems is our over dependence on Stats as opposed to finding talent that can fit a system !

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I saw a stat that said we win more matches without Alexis than with.

Explain that one?

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GranadaJoe wrote:I saw a stat that said we win more matches without Alexis than with.

Explain that one?
Maybe he is rested against easier teams?

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