Orcs (A) 4th/5th/6th/7th placed trophy Sat 19th August KO 1730 BTSport1

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Re: Orcs (A) 4th/5th/6th/7th placed trophy Sat 19th August KO 1730 BTSport1

Post by SPARKSY »

Herd wrote:
Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:07 am
Part of the reason we look unbalanced is down to the style in which we train and then take onto to pitch .
We NEVER practice defending set pieces so its no surprise that our zonal system doesn't work .
We ALWAYS play endless games of 3/4/5 a side together with short passing keep ball in training .
This is why we look like we are playing 5 a side football on an 11 a side pitch .
When we press all together we are awesome but we don't feel the need to do that for so called weaker sides and come unhinged too often.
In theory we play one advanced and one withdrawn Midfielder which as we know often ends with both being ahead of the ball when we lose it so two passes and the other team is bearing down on the back 3 or 4 .
This has ALWAYS happened under Wenger and when it doesn't work it comes badly unstuck however in the past we had intelligent players who could change things around Adams did it Vierra did it.
Last season was one of our worst ,there were times when the players simply didn't know what to do and didn't have the balls to dig in .
Xhaka and Elneny are worker bees , tell them what to do keep it simple and they will be OK play makers ,lock-pickers they are not and our system depends on that .
Our lord and master has decided that Ramsey is the man for the Job and he simply cannot do it ,no pace no precision and above all not enough brain !
Until and unless Wenger changes his all too predictable blueprint,NOTHING will progress and we all know he isnt going to change !


Exactly, nothing will progress this season.
Its unbelievable that a manager can think a team that finished a distant 5th and with only 2 additions to the squad, be expected to improve on that.

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Post by Redarmy »

SPARKSY wrote:
Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:26 am
Herd wrote:
Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:07 am
Part of the reason we look unbalanced is down to the style in which we train and then take onto to pitch .
We NEVER practice defending set pieces so its no surprise that our zonal system doesn't work .
We ALWAYS play endless games of 3/4/5 a side together with short passing keep ball in training .
This is why we look like we are playing 5 a side football on an 11 a side pitch .
When we press all together we are awesome but we don't feel the need to do that for so called weaker sides and come unhinged too often.
In theory we play one advanced and one withdrawn Midfielder which as we know often ends with both being ahead of the ball when we lose it so two passes and the other team is bearing down on the back 3 or 4 .
This has ALWAYS happened under Wenger and when it doesn't work it comes badly unstuck however in the past we had intelligent players who could change things around Adams did it Vierra did it.
Last season was one of our worst ,there were times when the players simply didn't know what to do and didn't have the balls to dig in .
Xhaka and Elneny are worker bees , tell them what to do keep it simple and they will be OK play makers ,lock-pickers they are not and our system depends on that .
Our lord and master has decided that Ramsey is the man for the Job and he simply cannot do it ,no pace no precision and above all not enough brain !
Until and unless Wenger changes his all too predictable blueprint,NOTHING will progress and we all know he isnt going to change !


Exactly, nothing will progress this season.
Its unbelievable that a manager can think a team that finished a distant 5th and with only 2 additions to the squad, be expected to improve on that.
If as expected Sanchez goes, they are going to struggle.....could end up a lot lower than 5th place.... :roll:

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Re: Orcs (A) 4th/5th/6th/7th placed trophy Sat 19th August KO 1730 BTSport1

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SPARKSY wrote:
Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:26 am
Herd wrote:
Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:07 am
Part of the reason we look unbalanced is down to the style in which we train and then take onto to pitch .
We NEVER practice defending set pieces so its no surprise that our zonal system doesn't work .
We ALWAYS play endless games of 3/4/5 a side together with short passing keep ball in training .
This is why we look like we are playing 5 a side football on an 11 a side pitch .
When we press all together we are awesome but we don't feel the need to do that for so called weaker sides and come unhinged too often.
In theory we play one advanced and one withdrawn Midfielder which as we know often ends with both being ahead of the ball when we lose it so two passes and the other team is bearing down on the back 3 or 4 .
This has ALWAYS happened under Wenger and when it doesn't work it comes badly unstuck however in the past we had intelligent players who could change things around Adams did it Vierra did it.
Last season was one of our worst ,there were times when the players simply didn't know what to do and didn't have the balls to dig in .
Xhaka and Elneny are worker bees , tell them what to do keep it simple and they will be OK play makers ,lock-pickers they are not and our system depends on that .
Our lord and master has decided that Ramsey is the man for the Job and he simply cannot do it ,no pace no precision and above all not enough brain !
Until and unless Wenger changes his all too predictable blueprint,NOTHING will progress and we all know he isnt going to change !


Exactly, nothing will progress this season.
Its unbelievable that a manager can think a team that finished a distant 5th and with only 2 additions to the squad, be expected to improve on that.
You see, there is the mistake we all make...we weren't a distant 5th, we were only one point from our objective. The objective of the fans and that of the team is two different things entirely.

Giroud let that slip at the end of last season....he said something along the lines of how heartbreaking it was to come so close to their objective yet miss out. That's where the journo's don't do their job. Imagine how embarrassed he would have been if the journo had said "So close, you finished 18 points behind them"?? I guarantee it would have taken Giroud a good few of seconds before he realized what the guy was referring to.

THAT is the mindset, Wenger has instilled that into the DNA of the club...the board, the fans and the players...Fourth, Fourth, Fourth,....CL, CL, CL..... Winning the title is an unrealistic pipe dream.....the players all know that. Why do you think the Nasri's, RvP's and Sachezes of this world leave after a while...they want more and they know under Wenger it is NEVER going to happen.

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Post by StuartL »

xisstential wrote:
Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:44 am
SPARKSY wrote:
Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:26 am
Herd wrote:
Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:07 am
Part of the reason we look unbalanced is down to the style in which we train and then take onto to pitch .
We NEVER practice defending set pieces so its no surprise that our zonal system doesn't work .
We ALWAYS play endless games of 3/4/5 a side together with short passing keep ball in training .
This is why we look like we are playing 5 a side football on an 11 a side pitch .
When we press all together we are awesome but we don't feel the need to do that for so called weaker sides and come unhinged too often.
In theory we play one advanced and one withdrawn Midfielder which as we know often ends with both being ahead of the ball when we lose it so two passes and the other team is bearing down on the back 3 or 4 .
This has ALWAYS happened under Wenger and when it doesn't work it comes badly unstuck however in the past we had intelligent players who could change things around Adams did it Vierra did it.
Last season was one of our worst ,there were times when the players simply didn't know what to do and didn't have the balls to dig in .
Xhaka and Elneny are worker bees , tell them what to do keep it simple and they will be OK play makers ,lock-pickers they are not and our system depends on that .
Our lord and master has decided that Ramsey is the man for the Job and he simply cannot do it ,no pace no precision and above all not enough brain !
Until and unless Wenger changes his all too predictable blueprint,NOTHING will progress and we all know he isnt going to change !


Exactly, nothing will progress this season.
Its unbelievable that a manager can think a team that finished a distant 5th and with only 2 additions to the squad, be expected to improve on that.
You see, there is the mistake we all make...we weren't a distant 5th, we were only one point from our objective. The objective of the fans and that of the team is two different things entirely.

Giroud let that slip at the end of last season....he said something along the lines of how heartbreaking it was to come so close to their objective yet miss out. That's where the journo's don't do their job. Imagine how embarrassed he would have been if the journo had said "So close, you finished 18 points behind them"?? I guarantee it would have taken Giroud a good few of seconds before he realized what the guy was referring to.

THAT is the mindset, Wenger has instilled that into the DNA of the club...the board, the fans and the players...Fourth, Fourth, Fourth,....CL, CL, CL..... Winning the title is an unrealistic pipe dream.....the players all know that. Why do you think the Nasri's, RvP's and Sachezes of this world leave after a while...they want more and they know under Wenger it is NEVER going to happen.
4th is all they are bothered about because getting 4th and the champions league gets them all their cushty little bonus - Wenker, the team, squad, who knows maybe the whole 500 employees that Wenker has to miraculously find the funds to selflessly pay for.

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