Team Spirit issues and management of Laca

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Re: Team Spirit issues and management of Laca

Postby nut flush gooner » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:26 pm

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Cut down on the multi quoting ffs.. :twisted:

End of the day the Sanchez problem is just a symptom of having a scumbag owner and complicit bean counter manager, focusing on Sanchez is just wasting energy that should be used on slating Kroenke and his crony Wenger.

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What you mean the Sanchez is going to City and it's all Wenger's fault, team spirit is shit and that's all Wenger's fault. The US are going to war with N Korea and that's all Wengers fault, not forgetting Brexit that's his fault too, bloody frog he should go home.

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Re: Team Spirit issues and management of Laca

Postby Jumpers For Goalposts » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:44 pm

Anyone slagging off Sanchez is missing the point completely. He doesn't want to be here - just like Fabregas, van Persie and others before him. They're a level above the players around them. They want to win trophies and they all realised that they weren't going to do that under Wenger.

Fabregas, van Persie and Sanchez have taken it in turns to carry a weak team and each of them has got thoroughly pissed off doing it. Most of the bang average players around them aren't fit to lace their boots.

If Arsenal are going to compete for the PL or CL it will be with a team full of players like Sanchez - not a team full of players like Eboue, Song, Denilson, Gervinho, Sanogo, Elneny, Ramsey or Walcott.

The person responsible yet again is Wenger as (for whatever reason) he dicked about, allowing key contracts to run down.

Wenger should have sold Sanchez and Ozil for top money (as Ferguson would have done) or motivate them to perform to their full ability. Wenger has done neither and that makes him the problem not Sanchez.

What do you want Sanchez to do - waste his best years surrounded by deadbeats and managed by a selfish fuckwit??

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Re: Team Spirit issues and management of Laca

Postby nut flush gooner » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:49 pm

Anyone slagging off Sanchez is missing the point completely. He doesn't want to be here - just like Fabregas, van Persie and others before him. They're a level above the players around them. They want to win trophies and they all realised that they weren't going to do that under Wenger.

Fabregas, van Persie and Sanchez have taken it in turns to carry a weak team and each of them has got thoroughly pissed off doing it. Most of the bang average players around them aren't fit to lace their boots.

If Arsenal are going to compete for the PL or CL it will be with a team full of players like Sanchez - not a team full of players like Eboue, Song, Denilson, Gervinho, Sanogo, Elneny, Ramsey or Walcott.

The person responsible yet again is Wenger as (for whatever reason) he dicked about, allowing key contracts to run down.

Wenger should have sold Sanchez and Ozil for top money (as Ferguson would have done) or motivate them to perform to their full ability. Wenger has done neither and that makes him the problem not Sanchez.

What do you want Sanchez to do - waste his best years surrounded by deadbeats and managed by a selfish fuckwit??
No, I want him to be totally committed to a club that is paying him a handsome salary. What he chooses to do afterwards is his choice.

No wonder this country is fucked, people think the whole world owes them a living regardless of how hard they work.

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Re: Team Spirit issues and management of Laca

Postby Jumpers For Goalposts » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:58 pm

You've got a different view of commitment. Sanchez is second top scorer, with 7 to Lacazette's 8 and he has had 33% more shots than anyone else in the squad. Plus he's top of the list for yellow cards as well.

What else do you expect him to do ????

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Re: Team Spirit issues and management of Laca

Postby OneBardGooner » Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:26 pm

You've got a different view of commitment. Sanchez is second top scorer, with 7 to Lacazette's 8 and he has had 33% more shots than anyone else in the squad. Plus he's top of the list for yellow cards as well.

What else do you expect him to do ????
He's also top of the 'pass the ball to the opposition' table :?

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Re: Team Spirit issues and management of Laca

Postby augie » Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:33 pm

You've got a different view of commitment. Sanchez is second top scorer, with 7 to Lacazette's 8 and he has had 33% more shots than anyone else in the squad. Plus he's top of the list for yellow cards as well.

What else do you expect him to do ????
He's also top of the 'pass the ball to the opposition' table :?


Of course he is always trying to get on the ball and make things happen which is more than most of his team-mates do - hard to lose possession when they spend most of the game hiding and not wanting the fcuking thing :roll:

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Re: Team Spirit issues and management of Laca

Postby Redarmy » Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:57 pm

You've got a different view of commitment. Sanchez is second top scorer, with 7 to Lacazette's 8 and he has had 33% more shots than anyone else in the squad. Plus he's top of the list for yellow cards as well.

What else do you expect him to do ????
He's also top of the 'pass the ball to the opposition' table :?


Of course he is always trying to get on the ball and make things happen which is more than most of his team-mates do - hard to lose possession when they spend most of the game hiding and not wanting the fcuking thing :roll:
exactly he is frustrated and trying to make something happen...we all could sit there and pass sideways and back like Iwobi...i could do that

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Re: Team Spirit issues and management of Laca

Postby Redarmy » Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:59 pm

You've got a different view of commitment. Sanchez is second top scorer, with 7 to Lacazette's 8 and he has had 33% more shots than anyone else in the squad. Plus he's top of the list for yellow cards as well.

What else do you expect him to do ????
He's also top of the 'pass the ball to the opposition' table :?
Yeah guess so....time to drop him and play Giroud or if hes injured put Wally upfront that will work a treat :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:

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Re: Team Spirit issues and management of Laca

Postby Jumpers For Goalposts » Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:59 pm

You've got a different view of commitment. Sanchez is second top scorer, with 7 to Lacazette's 8 and he has had 33% more shots than anyone else in the squad. Plus he's top of the list for yellow cards as well.

What else do you expect him to do ????
He's also top of the 'pass the ball to the opposition' table :?
Is there such a thing??

I'm not saying that Sanchez is perfect or blameless. What I'm saying is that this situation has happened before with Henry, Arshavin, Fabregas, van Persie and now Sanchez / Ozil.

Six very good players from six different countries. As with most things at Arsenal the only common denominator is Wenger - so do you not think it might be his fault ???

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Re: Team Spirit issues and management of Laca

Postby Redarmy » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:17 pm

Anyone slagging off Sanchez is missing the point completely. He doesn't want to be here - just like Fabregas, van Persie and others before him. They're a level above the players around them. They want to win trophies and they all realised that they weren't going to do that under Wenger.

Fabregas, van Persie and Sanchez have taken it in turns to carry a weak team and each of them has got thoroughly pissed off doing it. Most of the bang average players around them aren't fit to lace their boots.

If Arsenal are going to compete for the PL or CL it will be with a team full of players like Sanchez - not a team full of players like Eboue, Song, Denilson, Gervinho, Sanogo, Elneny, Ramsey or Walcott.

The person responsible yet again is Wenger as (for whatever reason) he dicked about, allowing key contracts to run down.

Wenger should have sold Sanchez and Ozil for top money (as Ferguson would have done) or motivate them to perform to their full ability. Wenger has done neither and that makes him the problem not Sanchez.

What do you want Sanchez to do - waste his best years surrounded by deadbeats and managed by a selfish fuckwit??
No, I want him to be totally committed to a club that is paying him a handsome salary. What he chooses to do afterwards is his choice.

No wonder this country is fucked, people think the whole world owes them a living regardless of how hard they work.
Sanchez with the goal at WBA, 2 against Palace......not sure what else he can do...probably to do with Brexit and America at war with North Korea....WTF???

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Re: Team Spirit issues and management of Laca

Postby SteveO 35 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:42 pm

And today really was one of those days for Lacazette - utter shite. Lightweight, caught on his heels all the time, ball bouncing off him. Didn't contribute a thing

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Re: Team Spirit issues and management of Laca

Postby northbank123 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:37 pm

And today really was one of those days for Lacazette - utter shite. Lightweight, caught on his heels all the time, ball bouncing off him. Didn't contribute a thing
And that is Lacazette. Great at times, average at times, anonymous at others. Better than Giroud but nowhere near the sort of striker who can win you titles.

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Re: Team Spirit issues and management of Laca

Postby Nos89 » Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:00 am

Has anyone else seen Elneny's tweet about going to 2018 world cup? He tags in the French, Spanish, German and Columbian players and takes the piss out of Sanchez by laughing that Chile didn't make it. If it's a genuine tweet, it's a bit poor for team.
Sanchez needs to go. Yes he is a genuine top class player, but he's causing unrest. He goes Ozil, Wilshere sign new contracts.
With a bit of luck if he ends up a man city I hope he has the same impact as Rodney Marsh did. Now there's one for the elderlies on here :wink:



Personally I think that the elneny tweet was just posted as a bit of banter designed to dispel the stories of a split dressing room - "look guys, we are all friends here and continually have the banter between us cos we are a unified squad" :roll:

If you honestly think that ozil stays if sanchez goes, then you are deluding yourself - of all players in the squad, it always seems to me that sanchez gets on with ozil more than most, and ozil and sanchez are always quick to celebrate with each other when one of them scores a goal. For me it has always been an ambition thing that is driving both players out of the club, and I think that they see themselves as kindrid spirits in that regard, and that they are too good for a two bit club like ours :cry: :oops: :oops:
I don't think it's a personal thing between the two players, maybe an ego thing but the club will make more of an effort to keep the other two. Signing another German international, Draxler if the rumours are true, will appease Ozil. Don't be surprised if we ask for Gundegon from city in an exchange deal.

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Re: Team Spirit issues and management of Laca

Postby nut flush gooner » Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:32 am

Anyone slagging off Sanchez is missing the point completely. He doesn't want to be here - just like Fabregas, van Persie and others before him. They're a level above the players around them. They want to win trophies and they all realised that they weren't going to do that under Wenger.

Fabregas, van Persie and Sanchez have taken it in turns to carry a weak team and each of them has got thoroughly pissed off doing it. Most of the bang average players around them aren't fit to lace their boots.

If Arsenal are going to compete for the PL or CL it will be with a team full of players like Sanchez - not a team full of players like Eboue, Song, Denilson, Gervinho, Sanogo, Elneny, Ramsey or Walcott.

The person responsible yet again is Wenger as (for whatever reason) he dicked about, allowing key contracts to run down.

Wenger should have sold Sanchez and Ozil for top money (as Ferguson would have done) or motivate them to perform to their full ability. Wenger has done neither and that makes him the problem not Sanchez.

What do you want Sanchez to do - waste his best years surrounded by deadbeats and managed by a selfish fuckwit??
No, I want him to be totally committed to a club that is paying him a handsome salary. What he chooses to do afterwards is his choice.

No wonder this country is fucked, people think the whole world owes them a living regardless of how hard they work.
Sanchez with the goal at WBA, 2 against Palace......not sure what else he can do...probably to do with Brexit and America at war with North Korea....WTF???
Come off it, Sanchez set such high standards before this season, even over the last few games you could see he is playing within himself. His return this season given what we know is shocking and yesterday's goal was clearly an OG.

Some of the comments about Lacazette are a bit harsh. Again he had no service yesterday, and one of the two chances he did have was pretty much created by himself.

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Re: Team Spirit issues and management of Laca

Postby Jumpers For Goalposts » Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:49 am

The first part is spot on - Sanchez has set such high standards. Unlike the rest of the halfwits he has to share a dressing room with. Sanchez is not the problem here!


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