The 'I told you so' EU referendum - Officially the Worst Thread Ever

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Remain or leave

Remain
30
37%
Leave
51
63%
 
Total votes: 81

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Brightonnxtround wrote:
Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:48 am
Gunner Rob wrote:
Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:24 am
Brightonnxtround wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:20 pm
Do the BBC & Laura cuntsberg seriously believe that if they get Theresa to stand down then brexit won't happen :D :D :D :D fuckind idiots .........and Jenny corbyn will ride in and save the day and stop brexit in its tracks :D :D :D :D
Dont know what you are on about - most remainers think the BBC has a pro Brexit bias.
There was a major anti Brexit march on Sunday with 50,000 marching in Manchester, but the only media that didnt cover this properly was the BBC.

And by the way Jeremy Corbyn is more pro Brexit than Theresa May :lol: :lol: Why do you think Herd on here is voting for him. :D
Don't make me laugh :D and the snaggle toothed geography teacher being pro brexit
REALLY :D :? :D why are all his supporters fucking remoaners
Brexit is perceived as a right wing movement with the likes of Farage, Boris and Rees-Mogg all on its side but actually its quite a left wing thing but i think the Labour movement it in a quandary because they cant be seen to be on the same side as Boris. Its actually the centre ground MP's like Cameron, Blair, Clegg that are pro EU

Look back Corbyn is staunchly anti EU as was Tony Benn (the most socialist MP for years) for all the right reason not the BS that Farage peddles but as politicians do, they cover their true feelings to win votes/money

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Flash is right there ,the left hated the EU and still do, the problem both parties face is that large amounts of both Tory and Labour voters voted in and out so both are looking at ways of keeping their own supporters who voted either way and gain more from the other side and that's proving very hard as neither really have a clue
Corbyn has been lucky as he is honest and you know what you get ,that's appealing in the same way as Trump was even though they have different agendas ,whilst the Tories have become bogged down by their own lies and rhetoric

One of my major gripes about the EU is its utter failure to get to grips with globalization .
Europe, and indeed the world are fucked unless we can stop the globalist corporations from raping us, and get them to pay a fair level of taxes .

There is Zero political will in the EU to deal with them which I find amazing given that the EU easily force them all to pay taxes in the places they make their money and sell their goods because they sell so much to the EU .
There's a good reason for this ,a lot of Eu technocrats come from banking backgrounds and are pals with big business another reason for us to leave .

Imagine Apple getting banned from selling their shit in EU ,they would cough up in a nano second ,u don't have to bleed them either , even if they paid a flat 20 percent there would be no austerity in the UK or anywhere else !
But what has the EU done ......nothing !

The US doesn't like that but the biggest loser of globalization is the American people , which is why they are finding ever and more creative ways of
taxing their ordinary citizens whilst leaving the super rich alone ,but that cant go on so maybe they will change their ways .

I'm no saying there is a will to take the globalist companies on but if we rid ourselves from the sinking eu ship at least we can hold our own politicians to account more.

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Erm all the above seems right now i think about it , and i stand corrected

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Brightonnxtround wrote:
Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:54 pm
Erm all the above seems right now i think about it , and i stand corrected
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No disrespect but this issue may be heading for the door with no agreement, and the EU must take a fair share of the blame...... :lol:
No agreement no dosh for EU.... :barscarf:

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Allgunsblazin wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:23 am
No disrespect but this issue may be heading for the door with no agreement, and the EU must take a fair share of the blame...... :lol:
No agreement no dosh for EU.... :barscarf:
Why are you blaming the EU? Brexit means Brexit as Theresa May used to say. There is no deal to be had. We voted to leave and if Brexit was going to happen then we should have left last summer.

Instead the government put a remainer into number 10 and so you have the current chaos.

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Gunner Rob wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:41 am
Allgunsblazin wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:23 am
No disrespect but this issue may be heading for the door with no agreement, and the EU must take a fair share of the blame...... :lol:
No agreement no dosh for EU.... :barscarf:
Why are you blaming the EU? Brexit means Brexit as Theresa May used to say. There is no deal to be had. We voted to leave and if Brexit was going to happen then we should have left last summer.

Instead the government put a remainer into number 10 and so you have the current chaos.
The EU was never this countries bag!
Reluctant in the 70's and that position has never changed.
She may have once opted for remain but she flip flopped over the Leave side...
She is quite canny in that regard, and it is actually keeping her in a job..
Europe has set its stall out, now let the bluffing and counter bluffing begin..
And yes, the arrogance and stubbornness of those unelected mandarins of Europe are to blame, Barnier and that other useless dwarf!

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Gunner Rob wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:41 am
Allgunsblazin wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:23 am
No disrespect but this issue may be heading for the door with no agreement, and the EU must take a fair share of the blame...... :lol:
No agreement no dosh for EU.... :barscarf:
Why are you blaming the EU? Brexit means Brexit as Theresa May used to say. There is no deal to be had. We voted to leave and if Brexit was going to happen then we should have left last summer.

Instead the government put a remainer into number 10 and so you have the current chaos.
For once I agree with you ,Theresa has been stalling and they still don't have a real plan ,we should have triggered it last year but they waited 9 months and they are still talking about half in/out until 2021. The Eu wont even discuss certain things so we better just leave !

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I have always believed in the Brexit means Brexit or a "hard" Brexit as some people call it.
there was never going to be a "soft" Brexit because the EU would never allow it.

so yes I agree with the Leavers on that point, but obviously as I am a remainer I think that crashing out without a deal is going to be a bit of a car crash for the country. Anyway whatever - no point me keep coming on here all doom and gloom as no leaver believes it :lol:

might as well just sit back and enjoy the ride - we are all going to be poor so I suppose we are all in the same boat. :roll:

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So hard for a club of 27 to show solidarity and then give a deal to the UK.
Europe is in a little bit of a hole, out of those remaining in the EU, who are the actual cash donors besides Germany, if I were Europe I would say Pay X now and we will give you a two year deal as you make your way!
Terms and conditions should be limited, a border with Ireland is ridiculous, as someone said why should I be bothered over the odd ton of beef finding its way to the other side!
Protectionism and taxation is what Europe is about, the European Superstate!....

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Allgunsblazin wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:49 am
So hard for a club of 27 to show solidarity and then give a deal to the UK.
Europe is in a little bit of a hole, out of those remaining in the EU, who are the actual cash donors besides Germany, if I were Europe I would say Pay X now and we will give you a two year deal as you make your way!
Terms and conditions should be limited, a border with Ireland is ridiculous, as someone said why should I be bothered over the odd ton of beef finding its way to the other side!
Protectionism and taxation is what Europe is about, the European Superstate!....
slight problem is that the EU is actually booming at the moment - you just don't get to read about it over here :wink:

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Gunner Rob wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:01 am
Allgunsblazin wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:49 am
So hard for a club of 27 to show solidarity and then give a deal to the UK.
Europe is in a little bit of a hole, out of those remaining in the EU, who are the actual cash donors besides Germany, if I were Europe I would say Pay X now and we will give you a two year deal as you make your way!
Terms and conditions should be limited, a border with Ireland is ridiculous, as someone said why should I be bothered over the odd ton of beef finding its way to the other side!
Protectionism and taxation is what Europe is about, the European Superstate!....
slight problem is that the EU is actually booming at the moment - you just don't get to read about it over here :wink:
Try being a little selective and ask the following nations about their boom!

Portugal
Ireland
Italy
Greece
Spain

Nearer to bust perhaps!..... :wink:

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Ireland - "In 2017, Ireland will be Europe’s fastest-growing economy – for the fourth year in a row"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... oars-again

Spain - "The Spanish economy expanded by more than 3 per cent in both 2015 and 2016, far ahead of its European peers. That is expected to continue this year, with GDP forecast to rise at least 2.5 per cent"

https://www.ft.com/content/254bb8a8-194 ... 09f373be87

even eastern europe is booming!

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... quickening

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Allgunsblazin wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:29 am
Gunner Rob wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:01 am
Allgunsblazin wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:49 am
So hard for a club of 27 to show solidarity and then give a deal to the UK.
Europe is in a little bit of a hole, out of those remaining in the EU, who are the actual cash donors besides Germany, if I were Europe I would say Pay X now and we will give you a two year deal as you make your way!
Terms and conditions should be limited, a border with Ireland is ridiculous, as someone said why should I be bothered over the odd ton of beef finding its way to the other side!
Protectionism and taxation is what Europe is about, the European Superstate!....
slight problem is that the EU is actually booming at the moment - you just don't get to read about it over here :wink:
Try being a little selective and ask the following nations about their boom!

Portugal
Ireland
Italy
Greece
Spain

Nearer to bust perhaps!..... :wink:
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/eco ... -1.3222227

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I don't know why Theresa May keeps referring to the EU27 as "our friends"
They fucking hate us :lol:

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