The Reason vs Superstition Thread

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Re: The LIES v Religion Thread

Postby DB10GOONER » Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:48 am

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Re: The LIES v Religion Thread

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Starting to question your beliefs????

Don't worry. We'll find room for you with the enlightened folk.

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Re: The LIES v Religion Thread

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Starting to question your beliefs????

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Here's one.

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Re: The Reason vs Superstition Thread

Postby olgitgooner » Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:25 pm

Regarding children's induction into belief systems......I offer you this gem from Dave Allen talking about his childhood and the particular religion he was born into :D

https://youtu.be/nNsUIDobj5g

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Re: The Reason vs Superstition Thread

Postby flash gunner » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:40 pm

Regarding children's induction into belief systems......I offer you this gem from Dave Allen talking about his childhood and the particular religion he was born into :D

https://youtu.be/nNsUIDobj5g
This was what things were like 60-70 years ago it's changed massively these days

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Re: The Reason vs Superstition Thread

Postby olgitgooner » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:58 pm

Regarding children's induction into belief systems......I offer you this gem from Dave Allen talking about his childhood and the particular religion he was born into :D

https://youtu.be/nNsUIDobj5g
This was what things were like 60-70 years ago it's changed massively these days
I'm sure you're right flashy. I put the link on for a bit of fun. Dave Allen is one of my comedy heroes. Many of our younger forum peeps may not have seen his stuff.

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Re: The Reason vs Superstition Thread

Postby DB10GOONER » Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:00 am

Regarding children's induction into belief systems......I offer you this gem from Dave Allen talking about his childhood and the particular religion he was born into :D

https://youtu.be/nNsUIDobj5g
This was what things were like 60-70 years ago it's changed massively these days
I'm sure you're right flashy. I put the link on for a bit of fun. Dave Allen is one of my comedy heroes. Many of our younger forum peeps may not have seen his stuff.
Dave Allen was class. 8)

Years ahead of his time too. One of the few comedians from that time whose stuff is still funny today. :lol: :barscarf: 8)

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Re: The Reason vs Superstition Thread

Postby flash gunner » Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:17 am

Regarding children's induction into belief systems......I offer you this gem from Dave Allen talking about his childhood and the particular religion he was born into :D

https://youtu.be/nNsUIDobj5g
This was what things were like 60-70 years ago it's changed massively these days
I'm sure you're right flashy. I put the link on for a bit of fun. Dave Allen is one of my comedy heroes. Many of our younger forum peeps may not have seen his stuff.
Dave Allen was class. 8)

Years ahead of his time too. One of the few comedians from that time whose stuff is still funny today. :lol: :barscarf: 8)
Agreed

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Re: The Reason vs Superstition Thread

Postby DB10GOONER » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:33 pm

Word from the Vatican is God voted Trump. :barscarf: :lol:

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Re: The Reason vs Superstition Thread

Postby GranadaJoe » Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:21 pm

Word from the Vatican is God voted Trump. :barscarf: :lol:

God loves a violent, egomaniacal, racist, mysogynist, bully.

Reminds him of himself in his younger days.

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Re: The Reason vs Superstition Thread

Postby DB10GOONER » Fri Nov 11, 2016 8:10 am

Word from the Vatican is God voted Trump. :barscarf: :lol:

God loves a violent, egomaniacal, racist, mysogynist, bully.

Reminds him of himself in his younger days.
Latest news is Allah voted Clinton. :shock:

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Re: The Reason vs Superstition Thread

Postby olgitgooner » Sat Nov 12, 2016 11:58 am

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When it comes to superstitions and strange experiences, there is usually a rational explanation :)

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Re: The Reason vs Superstition Thread

Postby DB10GOONER » Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:56 pm

Just gonna leave this here to fuck with AtheistJoe's head!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6de ... ical_proof

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Re: The Reason vs Superstition Thread

Postby GranadaJoe » Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:36 pm

Just gonna leave this here to fuck with AtheistJoe's head!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6de ... ical_proof

:D :wink:
There's been a number of attempts at these ontological proofs over the years, but, in philosophical jargon, they're bollocks.

They do create some problems for atheists because the lines of reasoning are difficult to get your head round, but they basically rely on accepting all of his 'take these statements as true' axioms, e.g.multiple/infinite universes in which all possible things exist. There's no justification offered for believing the first part and the second part isn't logical. An infinite universe could exist but there could still be possible things that don't exist in it.

Additionally, the idea is that we can conceive of a God who is completely positive and that real things are better than conceived things so God must exist.

The theorem is valid IF you accept the hypotheses, but that's a pretty big ask. Most people would doubt the statement that because we can conceive of things they must exist.

Using his argument you could argue that we can conceive of women more beautiful than any woman ever seen, who is purely positive, so she must exist and be better than we can conceive. However, you'll probably still wake up with the missus tomorrow morning, not your perceived goddess.

If you can't afford drugs, read through some arguments for and against his 'theorum'. Your mind will end up well and truly scrambled.

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Re: The Reason vs Superstition Thread

Postby StuartL » Thu Nov 17, 2016 10:17 pm

Just gonna leave this here to fuck with AtheistJoe's head!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6de ... ical_proof

:D :wink:
There's been a number of attempts at these ontological proofs over the years, but, in philosophical jargon, they're bollocks.

They do create some problems for atheists because the lines of reasoning are difficult to get your head round, but they basically rely on accepting all of his 'take these statements as true' axioms, e.g.multiple/infinite universes in which all possible things exist. There's no justification offered for believing the first part and the second part isn't logical. An infinite universe could exist but there could still be possible things that don't exist in it.

Additionally, the idea is that we can conceive of a God who is completely positive and that real things are better than conceived things so God must exist.

The theorem is valid IF you accept the hypotheses, but that's a pretty big ask. Most people would doubt the statement that because we can conceive of things they must exist.

Using his argument you could argue that we can conceive of women more beautiful than any woman ever seen, who is purely positive, so she must exist and be better than we can conceive. However, you'll probably still wake up with the missus tomorrow morning, not your perceived goddess.

If you can't afford drugs, read through some arguments for and against his 'theorum'. Your mind will end up well and truly scrambled.
If this beautiful woman, who is more beautiful than any woman ever seen exists, I would be happy to conceive with her. :barscarf:
Hey, If you happen to see the most beautiful girl in the world, tell her, I love her.


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