Spot on nut flush …. Arteta may be fortunate that the likes of Martinelli, Saka, Smith-Rowe (remember him ?) were already here, but this is his team, he has created, recruited well and jettisoned those who didn’t want to be part of it.nut flush gooner wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:59 amAfter we lost against Everton in December 2020, I for one couldn't argue with the club if they fired him there and then. I am a half-glass full type of person.DB10GOONER wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:24 pmI think that's fair. And the majority of posters on here would agree. It only seems to be the rose tinted variety that can't bring themselves to admit when he's fucked it up though.Redarmy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 2:07 pmNot sure about the genius of Arteta i think you are right he has made mistakes....BUT you have to give the guy credit....we are top of both Premier and Europa leagues....BFG4 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:21 amFirstly you're presuming about January signings but look how desperate we were last January and signed no one. When you talk about planning, did that involve offering a contract to a clearly average player like Nketiah or keeping clear deadweight like Elneny or Holding? When the World Cup is over our starting line up could be mid table at best. We are doing well at the moment but I feel like this always has to be attached in some way to the genius of Arteta when in reality he has made numerous mistakes. Il judge him in Maywilson2.0 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 1:19 amI just feel our current position and performances are not an accident. But rather the result of some long-term planning. We are not first by accident, but rather as a cumulation of work done by Arteta and Edu.
Another thing with Arteta, is unlike Wenger he seems like he is in a hurry. Wenger was way too passive. Letting transfer windows go by without replacing Almunia, Bendtner, Ebooue ect. But with Arteta I get the feeling players like Lokonga and Tavares will not be allowed to fester at the club when it becomes apparent they are not a fit. I can already see us going for Danilo in January and apparently we haven't given up on Teilimans. If we could add two midfielders, it shows Arteta isnt fucking around. Not willing to waste the potential in our squad and not willing to keep giving chances to Lokonga.
Managers get the shit when they loose....so have to give credit when they win.....
Hes doing great at present....IMO
But since then, there has been a gradual progression. The young talent has come through the ranks at the same time something we haven't really seen since the mid-80s, and they have been complimented with talent from places like Brazil. Yeah, we fucked up at the back end of last season but despite the disappointment, there was progression year on year. Essentially we were back to the situation when Wenger left, but not going downhill this time.
And this season, no Gooner could have expected this start, but the recruitment was spot on and if we actually get out fingers out in January and make a few signings like Danilo and Mudryk, we could do some serious damage in the league. I am not saying we will necessarily win the fucker, but for the first time in years the big boys will take us seriously. And to get to that level in 3 years, Arteta and Edu will take a lot of credit for.
Let’s not forget George inherited Adams, Rocky, Merse and moulded the team around them with some class additions Seaman, Smith, Limpar etc.
Arsene too inherited the back 5, so Arteta is no different in that he had some quality players to build up from , but he has changed the dynamics, around the whole club - the fans are so positive, loud, supportive, and the players clearly feel loved and appreciated - I can remember days when they trudged off win, lose or draw without so much as a clap to the fans.
We had a couple of posters stating that Martinelli would be gone in a season due to not getting game time - looks like he is incredibly happy to me, he defends as well as attacks.
Even those getting relatively little game time, look happy to be part of the set up and due to the demands of the season, their time will come when they are needed, so keeping them happy is vital.
This is what we have wanted for years, moaned about when we were miles away from competing at the top, we may yet not win a trophy this season, but we are clearly on the right path and the trophies will come, if we carry on like this and potentially add to the squad where we are light.