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Stuart L (2)
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mcdowell42 wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:51 pm
🚨 A blue card is to be introduced in football 🟦

The new card will see players removed from the field for 10 minutes if they commit a cynical foul or show dissent, per The @Telegraph 👀
Next it will be the game split into quarters, with time outs.

If they commit a cynical foul, then surely it is a yellow card, same as dissent….

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Stuart L (2) wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:09 am
mcdowell42 wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:51 pm
🚨 A blue card is to be introduced in football 🟦

The new card will see players removed from the field for 10 minutes if they commit a cynical foul or show dissent, per The @Telegraph 👀
Next it will be the game split into quarters, with time outs.

If they commit a cynical foul, then surely it is a yellow card, same as dissent….
Refs will just bottle job giving them a second booking and send them to the naughty chair for ten minutes. Then the player gets a nice rest, tactical instructions from the bench and comes back on. Refs will somehow fuck it all up by making horrendous decisions which would normally only be a booking but will end up with half of our players sitting out for ten minutes whilst the opposition and the usual favourites do the same thing and just get a booking. The answer to any problems with the game- which is one of the least complicated sports in the entire world- is just get better, less fraudulent referees.

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Fucking hell what are these morons trying to do with the game??

change FA cup to super bowl final FFS???.....

Are they just trying to justify there high paid jobs or is it a directive from Sky?

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Redarmy wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2024 11:57 am
Fucking hell what are these morons trying to do with the game??

change FA cup to super bowl final FFS???.....

Are they just trying to justify there high paid jobs or is it a directive from Sky?
It certainly makes you question who is actually running ( ruining ) our game.

All this nonsense makes “entertainment “ and controversy which equates to clicks and viewing figures etc, etc

I’m all for the refs being miked up, so that their decisions and conversations with players can be heard and recorded - cut out the calling players by their pet name etc and then any dissent is caught and punished - there and then with a yellow card not some sin bin nonsense

:banghead:

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Stuart L (2) wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2024 12:05 pm
Redarmy wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2024 11:57 am
Fucking hell what are these morons trying to do with the game??

change FA cup to super bowl final FFS???.....

Are they just trying to justify there high paid jobs or is it a directive from Sky?
It certainly makes you question who is actually running ( ruining ) our game.

All this nonsense makes “entertainment “ and controversy which equates to clicks and viewing figures etc, etc

I’m all for the refs being miked up, so that their decisions and conversations with players can be heard and recorded - cut out the calling players by their pet name etc and then any dissent is caught and punished - there and then with a yellow card not some sin bin nonsense

:banghead:
Way too sensible Stuart .....

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If anyone is in doubt about VAR ruining the game, yesterdays rulings at Wembley should convince you. Disallowing that goal for an imagined offence took several minutes and was completely baffling. Is there ever going to be a referee who, when called to the screen, is going to have the cojones to say "no, I'm not disallowing a goal for that"? Also that Caicedo "tackle" wasn't considered worthy of review for a red card, it wasn't even a foul apparently!

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Red Snapper wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2024 12:09 pm
If anyone is in doubt about VAR ruining the game, yesterdays rulings at Wembley should convince you. Disallowing that goal for an imagined offence took several minutes and was completely baffling. Is there ever going to be a referee who, when called to the screen, is going to have the cojones to say "no, I'm not disallowing a goal for that"? Also that Caicedo "tackle" wasn't considered worthy of review for a red card, it wasn't even a foul apparently!
I thought the disallowed Chav goal was a dubious decision as well. Unless there were other tv angles how the fuck they ruled the Chav player offside I'm not sure, millimetres between shoulder and toes and no clear image :roll:
VAR ruining cup finals :banghead:

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It was bad enough Before Stupid teeth made his Dramatic Announcement that he 'Had To' leave liVARpool at the end of the season. But now what with the Mejia Love In and suck up to the *word censored* and the poor poor Victims. The FA, Webb and PGMOL will be doing 'Everything' they can to ensure he fucks off into the Sunset with as many trophies as they can help him with.

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I see Paul Tierney's 'punishment' for his fuck up at the weekend is to be put on VAR duty for our match with Brentford. It's like a bus driver in involved in multiple accidents being put in charge of road safety :roll:

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BFG4 wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:35 am
I see Paul Tierney's 'punishment' for his fuck up at the weekend is to be put on VAR duty for our match with Brentford. It's like a bus driver in involved in multiple accidents being put in charge of road safety :roll:
So the fucking cock pussy can sit behind a TV screen and make more incompetent or bent decisions to favour the Victims or Cheaty :banghead:

No doubt he will be rewarded after the game to an all expenses bus man's holiday to somewhere in the middle east and earn a Rolex in the process. Fucking c.unt.

Tierney that is, not BFG :D

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BFG4 wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:35 am
I see Paul Tierney's 'punishment' for his fuck up at the weekend is to be put on VAR duty for our match with Brentford. It's like a bus driver in involved in multiple accidents being put in charge of road safety :roll:
I’m not going to mention any names, but you know who you are :lol: :lol: :lol:

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68755999

The latest blatantly corrupt, deliberate piece of sabotage. I feel for O'Neil and Wolves. The decision has to be one of the worst I've ever seen and of course it happens in the 98th minute so that everyone will discuss it. The Wolves chairman the latest now to question the need for VAR and question the integrity of the game. Who knows, if a few more chairmen take that view, the FA might get their original wish to abandon it altogether and go back to being the world's only game not to bring in technology effectively. I wouldn't rule out us or one of the either title contenders being on the end of a last day drama, or perhaps more likely one of the teams being relegated. The sabotage plan is working......meanwhile anyone else hear about any similar controversies in any of the other big leagues (by the way the SPL doesn't count!). No? Me neither.....

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Good news: @premierleague clubs "unanimously agree" to introduction of Semi-Automated Offside Technology after Autumn International break. Assistant refs been lobbying for it privately. PL: "The technology will provide quicker and consistent placement of the virtual offside line, based on optical player tracking, and will produce high-quality broadcast graphics to ensure an enhanced in-stadium and broadcast experience for supporters".

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mcdowell42 wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2024 1:54 pm
Good news: @premierleague clubs "unanimously agree" to introduction of Semi-Automated Offside Technology after Autumn International break. Assistant refs been lobbying for it privately. PL: "The technology will provide quicker and consistent placement of the virtual offside line, based on optical player tracking, and will produce high-quality broadcast graphics to ensure an enhanced in-stadium and broadcast experience for supporters".
Saw that McD... As you say "unanimously agree". So we can expect the Corruption to continue unabated and unchallengeable by any legal and proper means. Far better that an independent invigilator be installed, Not by the FA/PGMOL / Webb etc; we all know they cannot be trusted. Someone who knows football and has the power to instigate Legal Action against anyone and everyone within the Prem, FA, PGMOL etc

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68791135


Semi-automated offside technology approved by clubs for 2024-25 season


Premier League clubs have approved unanimously the use of semi-automated offside technology (SAOT) for the 2024-25 season.


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The plan is to introduce the system after one of the international breaks in September or October, the Premier League said.

Fifa first used the technology at the 2022 men's World Cup in Qatar.

It is anticipated SAOT could cut the length of a video assistant referee (VAR) check for offside by 31 seconds.

In a statement, the Premier League said the state-of-the-art technology "will provide quicker and consistent placement of the virtual offside line, based on optical player tracking".

It also added SAOT "will produce high-quality broadcast graphics to ensure an enhanced in-stadium and broadcast experience for supporters".

One aim is to introduce the technology next season for FA Cup ties hosted by Premier League clubs, and for the semi-finals and final at Wembley Stadium.

Decisions as to whether a player in an offside position is interfering with play, or whether a player is onside where a defensive player has touched the ball and the contact has been deemed deliberate, will still begin subjectively with the on-field referee.

The system was also trialled at the 2021 Arab Cup and Club World Cup, where it was estimated to have reduced the time taken to make offside VAR decisions from 70 to 25 seconds.

The use of VAR for offside calls has continued to be a controversial subject in the top flight, with a number of high-profile incidents dominating the headlines in recent seasons.

In September, a breakdown in communication led to VAR failing to overturn an incorrect decision to disallow a Luis Diaz's goal for offside during Liverpool's 2-1 defeat at Tottenham.


These cun.ts are doing all they can to avoid the 'conversations' between the on-pitch officials and those running VAR being made 'Live' se we can all hear how and why a decision has been reached.

League officials are stressing the technology, which has been tested and analysed during the current campaign, will not eliminate delays - but it should provide quicker decisions, particularly on the marginal calls, which seem to take forever at the moment.

The average reduction, it is being claimed, will be 31 seconds.

As with goalline technology, it should also mean clubs have greater confidence in decision making and that no offsides are missed.

While everyone connected with the game has come to understand nothing can be 100% perfect, it should reduce the potential for mistakes. However, the current manual crosshair placement will remain available as a backup in event of SAOT failure.

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Can it be programmed to forget to draw the lines in certain circumstances?

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