[donaldo]

There's no point in Wenger trying to be Fergie

No point at all.Ferguson is a winner who looked on losing the title on GD as a disaster while our clown of a manger looks on finishing 19pts behind the top 2 as success.You will never hear Fergie say a top 4 finish is a trophy.Wenger gave up trying to win real trophies 7 years ago

[highburyJD]

There's no point in Wenger trying to be Fergie

No point at all.Ferguson is a winner who looked on losing the title on GD as a disaster while our clown of a manger looks on finishing 19pts behind the top 2 as success.You will never hear Fergie say a top 4 finish is a trophy.Wenger gave up trying to win real trophies 7 years ago

the GD thing is hardly a great example - thats Meatface failing in a way we never have

but my point was there's no point in attempting to recreate another managers style
people demanding Wenger finds a plan B or plays defensive football are whistling in the wind
Wenger is essentially an arm round the shoulder manager, Fergie is a tyrant
I'm sure sometimes Fergie coddles players (Ronaldo) and Wenger has obviously got angry (I remember an early RVP red card) but how they are is how they are

Wengers record isnt as good as Meatfaces but Fergie's record is essentially better than everyone elses
if not being as good as him makes you shite everybody is shite

[arseofacrow]

[franksav63]

There's no point in Wenger trying to be Fergie

No point at all.Ferguson is a winner who looked on losing the title on GD as a disaster while our clown of a manger looks on finishing 19pts behind the top 2 as success.You will never hear Fergie say a top 4 finish is a trophy.Wenger gave up trying to win real trophies 7 years ago

Yep... so true Donaldo.... Wenger is now a serial loser in every way, he needs excuses, some are already in his holster to use, to deflect blame from himself. I can't wait until the time that he goes.

[highburyJD]

Wenger gave up trying to win real trophies 7 years ago

Yep... so true Donaldo....

this is a ridiculous statement, instantly backed up
7 years ago we WON the FA cup FFS
in that period we have had multiple cup finals (the only CL final + 2 x semis in our history) and league title challenges

[highburyJD]

I don't understand what you're saying...

That you're factually wrong.

still don't know which 'fact' this was btw

[franksav63]

Wenger gave up trying to win real trophies 7 years ago

Yep... so true Donaldo....

this is a ridiculous statement, instantly backed up
7 years ago we WON the FA cup FFS
in that period we have had multiple cup finals (the only CL final + 2 x semis in our history) and league title challenges

Whoopie.. fuckey... dooooo.....!!!! Let's get the open top bus out and celebrate these groundbreaking milestones in our club's history.. Perhaps we should put these milestones in the honours page in the program to fill it out a bit... or even put them up with the honours around the souless bowl, to plug the gaps...

[highburyJD]

I'm not suggesting bus parades,
just contradicting the bizarre suggestion Wenger gave up trying to win things

[franksav63]

I'm not suggesting bus parades,
just contradicting the bizarre suggestion Wenger gave up trying to win things

Well he sort of has, hasn't he? He's only started putting out better teams in both the FA Cup and in the latter stages of the Carling Cup so to try to break his enforced trophyless hoodoo... Goodness knows what would have happened had we beaten the mighty Birmingham in the Beer Cup the season before last... we would probably never get rid of the *word censored*..

[officepest]

I'm not suggesting bus parades,
just contradicting the bizarre suggestion Wenger gave up trying to win things

Signing, paying and handing contract extentions to (in no particular order): Almunia, Denilson, Djourou, Diaby, Gervinho, Vela, Flappy, Rosicky and Bendtner is tantamount to sitting on his stool and asking the cornerman to chuck the towel in.

[officepest]

PS he contrived to send a team out that lost to Birmingham City in the Worthlesstinpot. Birmingham City ffs, one of the worst sides ever to grace the top-flight (post/pre Sky).

If he cannot motivate his team to roll-over 2nd rate oppo in the least important cup what the hell hope is there?

[mcdowell42]

PS he contrived to send a team out that lost to Birmingham City in the Worthlesstinpot. Birmingham City ffs, one of the worst sides ever to grace the top-flight (post/pre Sky).

If he cannot motivate his team to roll-over 2nd rate oppo in the least important cup what the hell hope is there?

Dont forget the fa cup semi final agains the chavs when he didnt play arshavin cos he wanted to see if they could win without him

[highburyJD]

Birmingham City ffs, one of the worst sides ever to grace the top-flight (post/pre Sky).

really? They were shite but loads of their players + their manager went on to good jobs.
Can't be put in the Derby/Swindon/Sunderland bracket (and thats just Prem)

[QuartzGooner]

I'm not suggesting bus parades,
just contradicting the bizarre suggestion Wenger gave up trying to win things

Signing, paying and handing contract extentions to (in no particular order): Almunia, Denilson, Djourou, Diaby, Gervinho, Vela, Flappy, Rosicky and Bendtner is tantamount to sitting on his stool and asking the cornerman to chuck the towel in.

I do not think these players can provide any evidence Wenger gave up trying to win things, even though I believe he thinks it unlikely we will win things whilst the man c clubs and Chelsea are better backed by rich owners.

Almunia - Obscure goalkeeper bought on the cheap. Not sure he was ever intended as first choice though I think Wenger erred by keeping faith with him for so long.

Denilson - Made a lot of sense as a purchase, captain of Brazil for every level he had played at and had a good first season with us. Problems started when he regressed with us.

Djourou - Highly regarded youth prospect, who again, has regressed with us and suffered major injury.

Diaby - Good prospect who started well but regressed after major injury and multiple subsequent injuries.

Gervinho - Jury is still out in my opinion.

Vela - Technical skill, but lacked application.

Fabianski - OK, looked to have been a mistake.

Rosicky - Highly regarded throughout Europe. Problems came after serious injury.

Bendtner - Highly regarded youth prospect who fell at the final hurdle. Possibly a victim of his own hype rather than major failing by Wenger.

[highburyJD]

thanks Quartz
there are plenty of things the players, manager and club can rightly be criticised for
not wanting to win ain't one of them