CL Draw
Re: CL Draw
we can only beat monaco.
PSG and Atletico could crush us.
PSG and Atletico could crush us.
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Re: CL Draw
you really want to see a Bale hatrick at the bowl ?augie wrote:Bring on real Madrid - wenker has been bent over by Milan, barca and Bayern in recent seasons so surely it must be real madrids turn to have their way with us ?
& Real are bankrolled by the Spanish Royal Family
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Re: CL Draw
clockender1 wrote:you really want to see a Bale hatrick at the bowl ?augie wrote:Bring on real Madrid - wenker has been bent over by Milan, barca and Bayern in recent seasons so surely it must be real madrids turn to have their way with us ?
& Real are bankrolled by the Spanish Royal Family
The brand new Spanish king is a long life Atletico de Madrid fan, but anyways, who wants money from the Royal family when you got the government to support you economically?
Re: CL Draw
I think we can only beat Monaco out of that lot over 2 legs. Without a shadow of doubt we will draw Real Madrid. When Barca ruled Europe we got them every time, then it passed to Bayern.
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Re: CL Draw
Feb is a long way off.officepest wrote:Without wishing to drown in negativity before a ball is kicked; I'd fear anyone right now. We have arguably a better squad than Porto and Monaco, but Wenger's tactical ineptitude means we are so easily worked out it is untrue, so even those wouldn't be a given.
We might be better off with one of the stronger sides, gee ourselves up and think: "Fuck it, we've nothing to lose".
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Re: CL Draw
Think we could definitely beat Porto too (think we can draw them possibly?).SteveO 35 wrote:I think we can only beat Monaco out of that lot over 2 legs. Without a shadow of doubt we will draw Real Madrid. When Barca ruled Europe we got them every time, then it passed to Bayern.
I'd rather play Madrid, it's nice to get caned by different teams rather than the same ones
I still remember Paul Breitner doing the draw in 2011/12. There is a pot full of balls for each group winner, as every time they draw a runner-up they have to place in (only) the balls for the winners that they could face - this process is repeated every team for each draw. I swear Breitner was watching the Bayern ball as it was placed in there, grabbing it then holding onto it whilst swilling the other balls round (so he knew which ball Bayern was and decided when to draw them out). I'm not one for conspiracy theories and I know it probably sounds ridiculous but even if I'm wrong the system is so obviously open to abuse!
Re: CL Draw
Watched the very same draw and remember thinking how archaic the process was in this day and age. A clear bowl with 3 balls in it and he watched them given a half swirl before pulling out Bayern to face us. Farcical and just confirms everything I hate about UEFA and their sodding competitionnorthbank123 wrote:Think we could definitely beat Porto too (think we can draw them possibly?).SteveO 35 wrote:I think we can only beat Monaco out of that lot over 2 legs. Without a shadow of doubt we will draw Real Madrid. When Barca ruled Europe we got them every time, then it passed to Bayern.
I'd rather play Madrid, it's nice to get caned by different teams rather than the same ones
I still remember Paul Breitner doing the draw in 2011/12. There is a pot full of balls for each group winner, as every time they draw a runner-up they have to place in (only) the balls for the winners that they could face - this process is repeated every team for each draw. I swear Breitner was watching the Bayern ball as it was placed in there, grabbing it then holding onto it whilst swilling the other balls round (so he knew which ball Bayern was and decided when to draw them out). I'm not one for conspiracy theories and I know it probably sounds ridiculous but even if I'm wrong the system is so obviously open to abuse!
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Judge him in Feb do you mean there, or May he be judged in Febafcforever wrote:Feb is a long way off.officepest wrote:Without wishing to drown in negativity before a ball is kicked; I'd fear anyone right now. We have arguably a better squad than Porto and Monaco, but Wenger's tactical ineptitude means we are so easily worked out it is untrue, so even those wouldn't be a given.
We might be better off with one of the stronger sides, gee ourselves up and think: "Fuck it, we've nothing to lose".
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Re: CL Draw
Arsenal can face:
Real Madrid
Atletico
Barcelona
Bayern Munich
Monaco
Porto
9:43pm - 10 Dec 14
Real Madrid
Atletico
Barcelona
Bayern Munich
Monaco
Porto
9:43pm - 10 Dec 14
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Re: CL Draw
That's pretty much exactly what Arsene said after the game last night.afcforever wrote:Feb is a long way off.officepest wrote:Without wishing to drown in negativity before a ball is kicked; I'd fear anyone right now. We have arguably a better squad than Porto and Monaco, but Wenger's tactical ineptitude means we are so easily worked out it is untrue, so even those wouldn't be a given.
We might be better off with one of the stronger sides, gee ourselves up and think: "Fuck it, we've nothing to lose".
Arsene, is that you?
Arsene?
ARSENE?
Re: CL Draw
it can be seen on this linkSteveO 35 wrote:Watched the very same draw and remember thinking how archaic the process was in this day and age. A clear bowl with 3 balls in it and he watched them given a half swirl before pulling out Bayern to face us. Farcical and just confirms everything I hate about UEFA and their sodding competitionnorthbank123 wrote:Think we could definitely beat Porto too (think we can draw them possibly?).SteveO 35 wrote:I think we can only beat Monaco out of that lot over 2 legs. Without a shadow of doubt we will draw Real Madrid. When Barca ruled Europe we got them every time, then it passed to Bayern.
I'd rather play Madrid, it's nice to get caned by different teams rather than the same ones
I still remember Paul Breitner doing the draw in 2011/12. There is a pot full of balls for each group winner, as every time they draw a runner-up they have to place in (only) the balls for the winners that they could face - this process is repeated every team for each draw. I swear Breitner was watching the Bayern ball as it was placed in there, grabbing it then holding onto it whilst swilling the other balls round (so he knew which ball Bayern was and decided when to draw them out). I'm not one for conspiracy theories and I know it probably sounds ridiculous but even if I'm wrong the system is so obviously open to abuse!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCaVp_oSVUI
from 3:30 onwards.
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Re: CL Draw
Stats suggest its nailed on Bayern again, 24+%,
what bad luck Arsene, try again next year
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Re: CL Draw
One things for sure it wont be monaco or porto which means a proper brownholing in feb/mar its ok though in akb land we will be able to concentrate on getting top4 again so we can get backskulled in the last 16 again next yearTheoperator wrote:
Stats suggest its nailed on Bayern again, 24+%,
what bad luck Arsene, try again next year
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Re: CL Draw
ThisVoiceOfReason wrote:Considering we struggle with the likes of Hull, Stoke and Leicester, I fail to see how anyone would think we'd turn up and walk through Monaco or Porto.
Re: CL Draw
falkirk goon wrote:One things for sure it wont be monaco or porto which means a proper brownholing in feb/mar its ok though in akb land we will be able to concentrate on getting top4 again so we can get backskulled in the last 16 again next yearTheoperator wrote:
Stats suggest its nailed on Bayern again, 24+%,
what bad luck Arsene, try again next year
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I would nearly put money on us drawing either monaco or porto - we all say that everytime le cock is under pressure something lucky goes his way Of course if the draw is as corrupt as many think, could we rule out the king of europe being "looked after" by platini and co ?
Was looking at the list of group runners up this morning and I have to say that they looked like a more dangerous line up than the group winners - of course we know that we wont beat real madrid, bayern or barca, but the rest of the games are winnable imo (especially if we had a tactical manager in place ) where as I wouldnt put money on us beating many of the group runners up