Henry Norris 1913 wrote:one things for sure- wenger doesn't think anyone is good enough to replace coq or giroud.
He's so delusional he must be permanently on Aciiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid!
TURN UP THAT GODDAM BASS!!!!
Henry Norris 1913 wrote:one things for sure- wenger doesn't think anyone is good enough to replace coq or giroud.
If you've watched him many times then I'm amazed you can call him slow. I'll ignore the other insultsBendtners Drinking Buddy wrote:The "crap" about him being VERY slow comes from the fact I've watched him many times as like many I wanted to see what he was about, seen him live on numerous occasions too and whilst he is a decent player he isn't going to improve Arsenal in my opinion.
What has this got to do with Flamini or Coq? I've stated on numerous occasions we need something there but Wanyama just isn't the Man for me, not as a 40-50 game a season player at our level.
I do love how an opinion on here automatically gets vilified if it's different as our "arsene" love....
How many players from that Southampton side have moved on and succeeded? I'd say Morgon was the better player and that reflected well on Wanyama - a few years in the Disney league and being s decent, but limited player In a good side overall hasn't made me think he is good enough - he is a player that loses the ball a lot too, and an attacking side like us can't afford that.
Or should I make the same boring old statements like window lickers and snails to give my opinion some garnish? Good player, but not for us IN MY OPINION.
Insults? Just asking if calling fellow supporters whose views differ window lickers all the time makes my opinion, which is as valid as yours, more viable?SteveO 35 wrote:If you've watched him many times then I'm amazed you can call him slow. I'll ignore the other insultsBendtners Drinking Buddy wrote:The "crap" about him being VERY slow comes from the fact I've watched him many times as like many I wanted to see what he was about, seen him live on numerous occasions too and whilst he is a decent player he isn't going to improve Arsenal in my opinion.
What has this got to do with Flamini or Coq? I've stated on numerous occasions we need something there but Wanyama just isn't the Man for me, not as a 40-50 game a season player at our level.
I do love how an opinion on here automatically gets vilified if it's different as our "arsene" love....
How many players from that Southampton side have moved on and succeeded? I'd say Morgon was the better player and that reflected well on Wanyama - a few years in the Disney league and being s decent, but limited player In a good side overall hasn't made me think he is good enough - he is a player that loses the ball a lot too, and an attacking side like us can't afford that.
Or should I make the same boring old statements like window lickers and snails to give my opinion some garnish? Good player, but not for us IN MY OPINION.
There are many players we've been linked with who I have said I couldn't have cared less if we'd signed or not, so I'm not in that desperate category.....in fact Wanyama was the player I said I wanted in this position long before this latest rumour emerged. I didn't fancy Schneiderlin one bit - he has none of the qualities we need in that position and isn't worth the money - and when I look at some of the major deals completed by English teams this Summer I would say most of them weren't suitable for us (Sterling being the best example of the lot). I'm amazed that the one deal we did complete was for a keeper who I also think is 5 years at least past his best - sorry if you don't like me labelling him the giant snail but that's what he reminds me of in that headgear and with his slow reactions. Two games in and he looks every bit as shaky as he did on the occasions he played for the Chavsters last season.Bendtners Drinking Buddy wrote:Insults? Just asking if calling fellow supporters whose views differ window lickers all the time makes my opinion, which is as valid as yours, more viable?SteveO 35 wrote:If you've watched him many times then I'm amazed you can call him slow. I'll ignore the other insultsBendtners Drinking Buddy wrote:The "crap" about him being VERY slow comes from the fact I've watched him many times as like many I wanted to see what he was about, seen him live on numerous occasions too and whilst he is a decent player he isn't going to improve Arsenal in my opinion.
What has this got to do with Flamini or Coq? I've stated on numerous occasions we need something there but Wanyama just isn't the Man for me, not as a 40-50 game a season player at our level.
I do love how an opinion on here automatically gets vilified if it's different as our "arsene" love....
How many players from that Southampton side have moved on and succeeded? I'd say Morgon was the better player and that reflected well on Wanyama - a few years in the Disney league and being s decent, but limited player In a good side overall hasn't made me think he is good enough - he is a player that loses the ball a lot too, and an attacking side like us can't afford that.
Or should I make the same boring old statements like window lickers and snails to give my opinion some garnish? Good player, but not for us IN MY OPINION.
I think there is a desperation among some that we buy someone so badly that as soon as anyone half decent comes along he becomes the saviour.
Like I said in my opinion he is a 6/10 player and not what we need. But we do need something there for sure.
g88ner wrote:he's been there 2 years; this is his third season with the Saints.augie wrote:
Watched a few of his celtic games on tv a few years ago and I was well impressed with him - big, physically strong DM who likes a tackle so he ticks all the boxes for me BUT, looking for a transfer after 1 year with them is bang out of order imo. Granted for selfish reasons I would be happy for us to sign him (although I suspect some other club has already tapped him up) but a player who treats the club to brought him into the spotlight that way, would think nothing of shitting over any club regardless of the size of said club
If he has ambitions (and talent) to play at a higher level then there's no problem in asking to leave or not signing a new contract. He hasn't bad mouthed Southampton (as far as I know) nor gone on strike so I'm not sure he's done anything wrong to be fair.
I reckon he'll end up at Sp*rs if he leaves
augie wrote:g88ner wrote:he's been there 2 years; this is his third season with the Saints.augie wrote:
Watched a few of his celtic games on tv a few years ago and I was well impressed with him - big, physically strong DM who likes a tackle so he ticks all the boxes for me BUT, looking for a transfer after 1 year with them is bang out of order imo. Granted for selfish reasons I would be happy for us to sign him (although I suspect some other club has already tapped him up) but a player who treats the club to brought him into the spotlight that way, would think nothing of shitting over any club regardless of the size of said club
If he has ambitions (and talent) to play at a higher level then there's no problem in asking to leave or not signing a new contract. He hasn't bad mouthed Southampton (as far as I know) nor gone on strike so I'm not sure he's done anything wrong to be fair.
I reckon he'll end up at Sp*rs if he leaves
My bad
Have to say BDB, that we need a ball winner pure and simple - yes if he has technical ability too then it is so much the better, but first and foremost we need a big physical ball winner who plays the position with discipline and that sums up wanyama imo. Maybe there is better DM's out there but I don't know if le cock would spend the money required to buy the players that "are not for sale"
Lars Bender is a player that has a big rep for the past few seasons now but I have to be honest and say that I haven't seen enough of the guy to know if he is the answer or not. What I do know is that I would take either of them over a guy that was on his way out the door just 12 months ago
You saying he wasn't an upgrade on what we've got...Bendtners Drinking Buddy wrote:The "crap" about him being VERY slow comes from the fact I've watched him many times as like many I wanted to see what he was about, seen him live on numerous occasions too and whilst he is a decent player he isn't going to improve Arsenal in my opinion.
What has this got to do with Flamini or Coq? I've stated on numerous occasions we need something there but Wanyama just isn't the Man for me, not as a 40-50 game a season player at our level.
I do love how an opinion on here automatically gets vilified if it's different as our "arsene" love....
How many players from that Southampton side have moved on and succeeded? I'd say Morgon was the better player and that reflected well on Wanyama - a few years in the Disney league and being s decent, but limited player In a good side overall hasn't made me think he is good enough - he is a player that loses the ball a lot too, and an attacking side like us can't afford that.
Or should I make the same boring old statements like window lickers and snails to give my opinion some garnish? Good player, but not for us IN MY OPINION.
Yes but SteveO he isn't "better than what we have" and Arsene's new policy is that unless he's signing a super-quality top class player, then he won't bother at all! So unless Pogba or a cryciogenically frozen Ruud Gullit are "available" then it's Zinedine Coquelin in the middle all the way! Besides have you learnt nothing? Wanyama has not been declared officially for sale by his club so he cannot be bought! Players are only ever sold if the club declares on a loudspeaker at a town hall that they are! Arsene's and the scouts are working day and night, 24/7 to bring us the next Sanogo/Mertesacker!SteveO 35 wrote:Wanyama is exactly the player we need which is also the exact reason why we won't get him. The bloke is 10 times the player that Coquelin is and having spent years in England and Scotland isn't the gamble on the physical side that someone from Spain would be in that position. £16m is chicken shit in the present crazy market.....so not even a dizzying price for our Head of Economics to get flustered about !
I saw the Lars Bender report. It's hilarious. Apparently our fantastic scouting department has had him "watched". God knows what they'd learn about Leverkusen's best player, having bid £18m for him 2 seasons ago. Thankfully, I saw that wily Arsene is going to go back in with a renewed bid of....g88ner wrote:One of the things that always makes me laugh is how differently people rate players.
On this one page of the transfer thread, we've got some people saying Wanyama is an upgrade on Coquelin and exactly what we need and others saying he's actually pretty useless and should be nowhere near a club like Arsenal.
- Now I have no idea if I should be disappointed or not bothered about his likely move to Sp*rs
Having never seen most of these players play more than once or twice, I'm relying on you guys to keep me up to speed on who is and isn't good enough
I must say, I worry that Flamini's refusal to leave this summer (surprise, surprise - his career has revolved around bench warming on high wages) on top of the new contract for Arteta may stop Wenger signing a midfielder.
In other news, I see we're being linked to Lars Bender again dare I ask if people think he's good enough?
Ikechukwu1 wrote:I saw the Lars Bender report. It's hilarious. Apparently our fantastic scouting department has had him "watched". God knows what they'd learn about Leverkusen's best player, having bid £18m for him 2 seasons ago. Thankfully, I saw that wily Arsene is going to go back in with a renewed bid of....g88ner wrote:One of the things that always makes me laugh is how differently people rate players.
On this one page of the transfer thread, we've got some people saying Wanyama is an upgrade on Coquelin and exactly what we need and others saying he's actually pretty useless and should be nowhere near a club like Arsenal.
- Now I have no idea if I should be disappointed or not bothered about his likely move to Sp*rs
Having never seen most of these players play more than once or twice, I'm relying on you guys to keep me up to speed on who is and isn't good enough
I must say, I worry that Flamini's refusal to leave this summer (surprise, surprise - his career has revolved around bench warming on high wages) on top of the new contract for Arteta may stop Wenger signing a midfielder.
In other news, I see we're being linked to Lars Bender again dare I ask if people think he's good enough?
£18 million!
He can be added to that huge summer list of players who "aren't good enough" for the Arsenal this summer:
Benzema (no better than Giroud LMFAO)
Schneiderlin
Schweinsteiger
Jackson Martinez
Wanyama
Pedro
Next up: why Neymar wouldn't really be any better than Walcott