Conspiracy Theories

[DB10GOONER]

I do genuinly belive the 9/11 attacks were nothing to do with any islamist terrorists and there are many fishy things with other "terrorist attacks" which prompt new laws especially in America.

Of all the conspiracy theories this is the most absurd one going. All the "theories" put forward by those loose change morons have been debunked to death but people still believe it. If there is a conspiracy around 9/11 then its nothing to do with any of the "evidence" presented by doubters so far.

A good one is that in the conspiracy theorists' minds jet fuel needs to be able to melt steel to make the buildings collapse. Errr, no it just needs to weaken it till it bends and then the weight of the floors above cause it to break and the whole thing collapses in on itself.

But the best one by far is the assertion that debris from flight 93 somehow found its way 5 miles from the crash site ("proving" it was a missile attack). How was this measured? By going on google maps and plotting a journey which takes you on a indirect route around the roads . In a straight line the two sites were less then a mile apart

Yeah the 9/11 conspiracies are some of the worst. Absolute drivel. My favourite one is the pre-planted demolition charges theory; apparently the thousands and thousands of people that worked in the WTC didn't notice the dozens of people it would take to plant the required amount of charges or the huge amount of structural deformation needed to prep the building! Watch one of those demolition docs on Sky where they drop a small 10 story building, take a look at the prep work that goes into it for days before hand and tell me that the CIA (or fucking whoever) were able to do that to not one but two buildings each over a hundred stories tall, in the middle of NYC and not one single fucker noticed!!



The US government and intelligence agencies were guilty of many things in relation to 9/11 (incompitence, bad info analysis, laziness, poor working relationships between agencies, etc) but conspiracy is not one of them.

They knew a major Islamist attack was coming (there had been some already - USS Cole, Embassy and Marine barracks bombings etc) but they did not know specifically about the 9/11 attacks.

[DB10GOONER]

Also, one of my favourite bits of stupidity that came out of 9/11 (and this one sometimes comes from supposed structural engineers!! ) is that there’s no way the fire could have burned through the fire proofing material on the steel girders to weaken them.

I worked for 17 years in construction and the last 10 was as a firestopping installer/consultant. We used the same materials on structural steel girders as used in the WTC – ablative foam, composed of polymeric isocyanate. You spray it on, let it cure, and it will stop fire and heat from damaging those structural steel beams for at least the legally required one hour. But you crash a high speed airplane into them and that foam just goes to shit, it fails instantly, breaking up and falling off the steel. You can actually take the stuff off steel with your hand! It’s not designed to resist impact or explosion, only heat and fire.

[northbank123]

Yep, 9/11 ones definitely worst. Apparently not only did the US government blow up 3,000 of their own citizens, they also made that fact blatantly obvious to anybody willing to scrawl through a few photos on the internet.

[mcdowell42]

I do genuinly belive the 9/11 attacks were nothing to do with any islamist terrorists and there are many fishy things with other "terrorist attacks" which prompt new laws especially in America.

Of all the conspiracy theories this is the most absurd one going. All the "theories" put forward by those loose change morons have been debunked to death but people still believe it. If there is a conspiracy around 9/11 then its nothing to do with any of the "evidence" presented by doubters so far.

A good one is that in the conspiracy theorists' minds jet fuel needs to be able to melt steel to make the buildings collapse. Errr, no it just needs to weaken it till it bends and then the weight of the floors above cause it to break and the whole thing collapses in on itself.

But the best one by far is the assertion that debris from flight 93 somehow found its way 5 miles from the crash site ("proving" it was a missile attack). How was this measured? By going on google maps and plotting a journey which takes you on a indirect route around the roads . In a straight line the two sites were less then a mile apart

Yeah the 9/11 conspiracies are some of the worst. Absolute drivel. My favourite one is the pre-planted demolition charges theory; apparently the thousands and thousands of people that worked in the WTC didn't notice the dozens of people it would take to plant the required amount of charges or the huge amount of structural deformation needed to prep the building! Watch one of those demolition docs on Sky where they drop a small 10 story building, take a look at the prep work that goes into it for days before hand and tell me that the CIA (or fucking whoever) were able to do that to not one but two buildings each over a hundred stories tall, in the middle of NYC and not one single fucker noticed!!



The US government and intelligence agencies were guilty of many things in relation to 9/11 (incompitence, bad info analysis, laziness, poor working relationships between agencies, etc) but conspiracy is not one of them.

They knew a major Islamist attack was coming (there had been some already - USS Cole, Embassy and Marine barracks bombings etc) but they did not know specifically about the 9/11 attacks.

Hope someone proof reads your books b4 they get published INCOMPETENCE

[DB10GOONER]

I do genuinly belive the 9/11 attacks were nothing to do with any islamist terrorists and there are many fishy things with other "terrorist attacks" which prompt new laws especially in America.

Of all the conspiracy theories this is the most absurd one going. All the "theories" put forward by those loose change morons have been debunked to death but people still believe it. If there is a conspiracy around 9/11 then its nothing to do with any of the "evidence" presented by doubters so far.

A good one is that in the conspiracy theorists' minds jet fuel needs to be able to melt steel to make the buildings collapse. Errr, no it just needs to weaken it till it bends and then the weight of the floors above cause it to break and the whole thing collapses in on itself.

But the best one by far is the assertion that debris from flight 93 somehow found its way 5 miles from the crash site ("proving" it was a missile attack). How was this measured? By going on google maps and plotting a journey which takes you on a indirect route around the roads . In a straight line the two sites were less then a mile apart

Yeah the 9/11 conspiracies are some of the worst. Absolute drivel. My favourite one is the pre-planted demolition charges theory; apparently the thousands and thousands of people that worked in the WTC didn't notice the dozens of people it would take to plant the required amount of charges or the huge amount of structural deformation needed to prep the building! Watch one of those demolition docs on Sky where they drop a small 10 story building, take a look at the prep work that goes into it for days before hand and tell me that the CIA (or fucking whoever) were able to do that to not one but two buildings each over a hundred stories tall, in the middle of NYC and not one single fucker noticed!!



The US government and intelligence agencies were guilty of many things in relation to 9/11 (incompitence, bad info analysis, laziness, poor working relationships between agencies, etc) but conspiracy is not one of them.

They knew a major Islamist attack was coming (there had been some already - USS Cole, Embassy and Marine barracks bombings etc) but they did not know specifically about the 9/11 attacks.

Hope someone proof reads your books b4 they get published INCOMPETENCE

Ah, a student of irony as comedic device - I like...

[mcdowell42]

im here all weak

[dPmunky]

The US government and intelligence agencies were guilty of many things in relation to 9/11 (incompitence, bad info analysis, laziness, poor working relationships between agencies, etc) but conspiracy is not one of them.

this is the saddest thing about that issue. these inside job people have directed so much attention at things that arent there and yet the real story, the real shame of the "inside job" is how the intelligence community DROPPED THE BALL. To think they "just couldnt get em, aww shucks" is completely naive

my favorite conspiracies are the ones that come true like this most recent nsa spy gate. try telling someone a few years ago that these agencies had these capabilities and you'd have been called a fool! or how "crazy" you were to think that the evidence for WMD's in iraq was a bit "sketchy" and the govt's wanted in there for regime change. but i guess i'm a crazy fool

[arseofacrow]

The US government and intelligence agencies were guilty of many things in relation to 9/11 (incompitence, bad info analysis, laziness, poor working relationships between agencies, etc) but conspiracy is not one of them.

this is the saddest thing about that issue. these inside job people have directed so much attention at things that arent there and yet the real story, the real shame of the "inside job" is how the intelligence community DROPPED THE BALL. To think they "just couldnt get em, aww shucks" is completely naive

my favorite conspiracies are the ones that come true like this most recent nsa spy gate. try telling someone a few years ago that these agencies had these capabilities and you'd have been called a fool! or how "crazy" you were to think that the evidence for WMD's in iraq was a bit "sketchy" and the govt's wanted in there for regime change. but i guess i'm a crazy fool

I don't think many people are that surprised about the possibility of the US having these capabilities.

Ok, perhaps Americans are.

[olgitgooner]

Flight 77 and the Pentagon on 9/11.
Sure is a small hole in the building or perhaps the plane lost it's wings on impact?

Easily debunked ......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8B-AvIt6V4

[dPmunky]

I don't think many people are that surprised about the possibility of the US having these capabilities.

Ok, perhaps Americans are.

americans are naive but then again these are the same people who put their whole lives up on facebook and then wonder why they have no privacy.

[Top Londoner]

Flight 77 and the Pentagon on 9/11.
Sure is a small hole in the building or perhaps the plane lost it's wings on impact?

Easily debunked ......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8B-AvIt6V4

Can you please stop making so much sense. I hadn't seen that clip before.


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Anyway, can anyone debunk the FACT that the driver of JFK's limo was the real shooter?
Or, the reptilian Prince Phillip will make a miraculous recovery after sacrificing a few young children and drinking their blood?
That 7/7 was actually MI5/Mossad.
Hitler and Armadinnerjacket are actually Jews and that Angela Merkel is ACTUALLY the daughter of Hitler?

Form an orderly queue.

[LDB]

I do think the full truth of JFK's assassination hasn't been uncovered. I think its likely that lee harvey oswald was the shooter but the fact that lho was bumped off by a bloke with mob connections before he could stand trial suggests something was suppressed imo

[goonertux]

JFK was hated by the CIA, FBI, and the Mafia. Various reasons including liberalism, aiding the black population, Cuba, and Vietnam. J Edgar Hoover, director of the FBI at the time, was tied to the Mafia, particularly Sam Giancana, who was Jack Ruby's boss. Giancana ordered the 'hit' on Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby carried it out. Lyndon B Johnson was also in on the whole thing, and he appointed Allen Dulles, a previous head of the CIA, to lead the Warren Commission. The bullet that ripped through his skull also definitely came from in front of the car. Lee Harvey Oswald did fire from the Book Depository, but his bullet hit JFK in the small of the neck.
Case closed. Apparently, Jackie Kennedy's file will be opened in 2023 and the real events will be exposed.

[skizz_b]

BILDERBERG GROUP!

You know too much already sunshine.

I'll stay out of the thread then

[QuartzGooner]

JFK was hated by the CIA, FBI, and the Mafia. Various reasons including liberalism, aiding the black population, Cuba, and Vietnam. J Edgar Hoover, director of the FBI at the time, was tied to the Mafia, particularly Sam Giancana, who was Jack Ruby's boss. Giancana ordered the 'hit' on Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby carried it out. Lyndon B Johnson was also in on the whole thing, and he appointed Allen Dulles, a previous head of the CIA, to lead the Warren Commission. The bullet that ripped through his skull also definitely came from in front of the car. Lee Harvey Oswald did fire from the Book Depository, but his bullet hit JFK in the small of the neck.
Case closed. Apparently, Jackie Kennedy's file will be opened in 2023 and the real events will be exposed.

I used to think that JFK was murdered by LBJ who acted on behalf of a small cabal of right wing businessmen, worried that JFK was opening the door to Socialism in the USA.

But then I look at JFK's robust stance over the Cuban missile crisis, and the civil rights legislation passed by LBJ when he was President, and it weakens the reasons for my theory that the right wing were determined to kill JFK.

I think a more plausible reason is that JFK crossed the Italian mob, and they took out him and his brother RFK.

But I only know what I have read and I am certain there is a lot more to it, so I could well be wrong.

What I am sure of is that FBI/Hoover/Cointelpro took out tens of African-American leaders during the 1960's, worried that they were Socialist and talking to the Soviets, especially Martin Luther King.