Re: Religion
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:27 pm
Having just watched a real life (St. Arsene does tactics) miracle I'm starting to believe.
I'm not saying anything.DB10GOONER wrote:
We do need to exterminate these extremists, because there is no negotiating with them. But we must also be extremely careful not to tar all Muslims with the same brush. Just as most British people were thankfully intelligent enough not to tar all Irish people with the same brush as the IRA back in the 1970's/80's.
Oh I got your point, but my point is that the two conflicts/issues (and public/government perception of them) are so vastly different that the comparison isn't valid. In augie's last post he lists the reasons why most intelligent British people didn't turn on the Irish en-masse. Also, I don't think augie's first post was that extreme tbh. I think he clearly said if a Muslim is non-violent and respectful of local culture/society then they shouldn't be judged in the same fashion as the jihadist/terrorist.Chippy wrote:DB I'm sorry to say you missed the point of my post. I was not equating the IRA with current Islamist terrorists. I was trying to highlight how extreme Augie's post was. Basically he was pretty much saying all muslims are fair game. If the British had taken that view of the Irish in the 70s (and some wanted to) then I think we would all be in a much worse situation today. Me especially.
Careful now, tiger...arseofacrow wrote:I'm not saying anything.DB10GOONER wrote:
We do need to exterminate these extremists, because there is no negotiating with them. But we must also be extremely careful not to tar all Muslims with the same brush. Just as most British people were thankfully intelligent enough not to tar all Irish people with the same brush as the IRA back in the 1970's/80's.
DB10GOONER wrote:Oh I got your point, but my point is that the two conflicts/issues (and public/government perception of them) are so vastly different that the comparison isn't valid. In augie's last post he lists the reasons why most intelligent British people didn't turn on the Irish en-masse. Also, I don't think augie's first post was that extreme tbh. I think he clearly said if a Muslim is non-violent and respectful of local culture/society then they shouldn't be judged in the same fashion as the jihadist/terrorist.Chippy wrote:DB I'm sorry to say you missed the point of my post. I was not equating the IRA with current Islamist terrorists. I was trying to highlight how extreme Augie's post was. Basically he was pretty much saying all muslims are fair game. If the British had taken that view of the Irish in the 70s (and some wanted to) then I think we would all be in a much worse situation today. Me especially.
Yes he did!GranadaJoe wrote:DB10GOONER wrote:Oh I got your point, but my point is that the two conflicts/issues (and public/government perception of them) are so vastly different that the comparison isn't valid. In augie's last post he lists the reasons why most intelligent British people didn't turn on the Irish en-masse. Also, I don't think augie's first post was that extreme tbh. I think he clearly said if a Muslim is non-violent and respectful of local culture/society then they shouldn't be judged in the same fashion as the jihadist/terrorist.Chippy wrote:DB I'm sorry to say you missed the point of my post. I was not equating the IRA with current Islamist terrorists. I was trying to highlight how extreme Augie's post was. Basically he was pretty much saying all muslims are fair game. If the British had taken that view of the Irish in the 70s (and some wanted to) then I think we would all be in a much worse situation today. Me especially.
tbf, he also advocated bombing innocent Muslims
Unless the bloke is an expert in ancient hebrew and knows what was going through the head of a man writing something down about 1000 years after it allegedly happened then I would suggest he hasn't got a scooby.Bradywasking wrote:One of the Ten Commandments is Thou shalt not take the Lord's Name in Vain.. I as a child assumed that meant not using Jesus or God in a swearing context, but was recently informed by someone who is more in tune with it than I that it means that The Lord or God's name cannot be used in the context of violence , in other words do not kill or maim in the name of God.
Never suggested he was an expert, just more in tune than me.Chippy wrote:Unless the bloke is an expert in ancient hebrew and knows what was going through the head of a man writing something down about 1000 years after it allegedly happened then I would suggest he hasn't got a scooby.Bradywasking wrote:One of the Ten Commandments is Thou shalt not take the Lord's Name in Vain.. I as a child assumed that meant not using Jesus or God in a swearing context, but was recently informed by someone who is more in tune with it than I that it means that The Lord or God's name cannot be used in the context of violence , in other words do not kill or maim in the name of God.