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Wayno wrote:I like Hooters 8)

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went tyo thehooters in tenerife, quality, the beers were nice too :lol:

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WOW, IM SHOCKED, WHERE DO YOU GUYS LIVE?

U GUYS REALLY HAVE NO IDEA, WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT.

U HAVE NEVER HAVE PROBLEM WITH HUMAN RIGHTS, THE PEOPLE (NATIONS) USA HAVE INVADED UNTILL TODAY THEY HAVE TERRORIZED SOME OTHER SMALL NATIONS. THEY INVADED SERBIA BECAUSE THEY KILLED AND TERRORIZED MANY OTHER NATIONS INSIDE YUGOSLLAVIA. (I KNOW SOME OF YOU GUYS LIKE SERBIA U THINK THEY ARE INOCENT, BUT I TELL U RIGHT NOW I WISH HITLER WAS ALIVE AND TAKE CARE OF THEM, BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE NAZIS THAN YOU GUYS CAN EVER IMAGINE). IRAQ: SADAM WAS THE LEADER OF AN TERRORIST REGIME WHO TERRORIZED SINCE YEARS OTHER NATIONS WITHIN IRAQ EVEN MADE CHEMICAL EXPERIMENTS IN THEM AS HI DID IN KOSOVO TOGETHER WITH SERBS BACK IN 1990, WHEN THEY POISONED ALL HIGH SCHOOLS AROUND KOSOVO, AND TODAY THOSE FACTS ARE ALIVE, EVERY DAY KIDS ARE BORN RETARDED, AND THOSE GENERATIONS ARE DAYING FROM CANCER, LEUKEMIA ETC, STRANGE SICKNES LIKE NEVER BEFORE IN THIS AREA. AFGANISTAN: NO COMMENT, THE NATION WAS ISOLATED AND THEY ARE SO BEHIND US THEY WILL NEED 100 OF YEARS TO REACH MY LEVEL I DONT HAVE TO TALK ABOUT YOURS. I UNDERSTAND YOUR VIEW OF PEACE BUT SOMTIME SOME NATIONS ARE GOOD PLAYERS, AND THEY HIDE BEHIND SYSTEMS AND REGULATIONS SOLONG THEY KICK AS AND EXTINGUISH OTHER NATIONS WITH WHATEVER THEY CAN. SO PLS DONT CRAP WITH ME ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS BECAUSE NON OF YOU EVER HAVE PROBLEM WITH. THANK YOU

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KAQAK wrote:WOW, IM SHOCKED, WHERE DO YOU GUYS LIVE?

U GUYS REALLY HAVE NO IDEA, WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT.

U HAVE NEVER HAVE PROBLEM WITH HUMAN RIGHTS, THE PEOPLE (NATIONS) USA HAVE INVADED UNTILL TODAY THEY HAVE TERRORIZED SOME OTHER SMALL NATIONS. THEY INVADED SERBIA BECAUSE THEY KILLED AND TERRORIZED MANY OTHER NATIONS INSIDE YUGOSLLAVIA. (I KNOW SOME OF YOU GUYS LIKE SERBIA U THINK THEY ARE INOCENT, BUT I TELL U RIGHT NOW I WISH HITLER WAS ALIVE AND TAKE CARE OF THEM, BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE NAZIS THAN YOU GUYS CAN EVER IMAGINE). IRAQ: SADAM WAS THE LEADER OF AN TERRORIST REGIME WHO TERRORIZED SINCE YEARS OTHER NATIONS WITHIN IRAQ EVEN MADE CHEMICAL EXPERIMENTS IN THEM AS HI DID IN KOSOVO TOGETHER WITH SERBS BACK IN 1990, WHEN THEY POISONED ALL HIGH SCHOOLS AROUND KOSOVO, AND TODAY THOSE FACTS ARE ALIVE, EVERY DAY KIDS ARE BORN RETARDED, AND THOSE GENERATIONS ARE DAYING FROM CANCER, LEUKEMIA ETC, STRANGE SICKNES LIKE NEVER BEFORE IN THIS AREA. AFGANISTAN: NO COMMENT, THE NATION WAS ISOLATED AND THEY ARE SO BEHIND US THEY WILL NEED 100 OF YEARS TO REACH MY LEVEL I DONT HAVE TO TALK ABOUT YOURS. I UNDERSTAND YOUR VIEW OF PEACE BUT SOMTIME SOME NATIONS ARE GOOD PLAYERS, AND THEY HIDE BEHIND SYSTEMS AND REGULATIONS SOLONG THEY KICK AS AND EXTINGUISH OTHER NATIONS WITH WHATEVER THEY CAN. SO PLS DONT CRAP WITH ME ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS BECAUSE NON OF YOU EVER HAVE PROBLEM WITH. THANK YOU
I'm pretty sure talking about human rights and saying you wish Hitler was still alive are pretty conflicting views.

Also those capitals arent very easy on the eyes

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goonarmy wrote:
KAQAK wrote:WOW, IM SHOCKED, WHERE DO YOU GUYS LIVE?

U GUYS REALLY HAVE NO IDEA, WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT.

U HAVE NEVER HAVE PROBLEM WITH HUMAN RIGHTS, THE PEOPLE (NATIONS) USA HAVE INVADED UNTILL TODAY THEY HAVE TERRORIZED SOME OTHER SMALL NATIONS. THEY INVADED SERBIA BECAUSE THEY KILLED AND TERRORIZED MANY OTHER NATIONS INSIDE YUGOSLLAVIA. (I KNOW SOME OF YOU GUYS LIKE SERBIA U THINK THEY ARE INOCENT, BUT I TELL U RIGHT NOW I WISH HITLER WAS ALIVE AND TAKE CARE OF THEM, BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE NAZIS THAN YOU GUYS CAN EVER IMAGINE). IRAQ: SADAM WAS THE LEADER OF AN TERRORIST REGIME WHO TERRORIZED SINCE YEARS OTHER NATIONS WITHIN IRAQ EVEN MADE CHEMICAL EXPERIMENTS IN THEM AS HI DID IN KOSOVO TOGETHER WITH SERBS BACK IN 1990, WHEN THEY POISONED ALL HIGH SCHOOLS AROUND KOSOVO, AND TODAY THOSE FACTS ARE ALIVE, EVERY DAY KIDS ARE BORN RETARDED, AND THOSE GENERATIONS ARE DAYING FROM CANCER, LEUKEMIA ETC, STRANGE SICKNES LIKE NEVER BEFORE IN THIS AREA. AFGANISTAN: NO COMMENT, THE NATION WAS ISOLATED AND THEY ARE SO BEHIND US THEY WILL NEED 100 OF YEARS TO REACH MY LEVEL I DONT HAVE TO TALK ABOUT YOURS. I UNDERSTAND YOUR VIEW OF PEACE BUT SOMTIME SOME NATIONS ARE GOOD PLAYERS, AND THEY HIDE BEHIND SYSTEMS AND REGULATIONS SOLONG THEY KICK AS AND EXTINGUISH OTHER NATIONS WITH WHATEVER THEY CAN. SO PLS DONT CRAP WITH ME ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS BECAUSE NON OF YOU EVER HAVE PROBLEM WITH. THANK YOU
I'm pretty sure talking about human rights and saying you wish Hitler was still alive are pretty conflicting views.

Also those capitals arent very easy on the eyes
IF YOU NAME BUSH A HITLER THAN WHAT KINDE OF RESPONSE U WAIT FORM ME.

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kaqak, just a quick reply as i dont really want to get involved in a polical debate ,
America is responsible for most of the wars in the last 50 years,
they armed the afghans to fight the USSR
they armed the contras and other terrorist groups in central America so they could overthrow elected socialist governments,they have had a blockade on Cuba since 1961 after they were unsuccessful at overthrowing the goverment there so nothing can get in without there permission, they armed the israelis so they can kill innocent children,why have they appointed themselves the worlds police. its because
everything they do is to protect there interests in oil,money etc

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[quote="KAQAK"]WOW, IM SHOCKED, WHERE DO YOU GUYS LIVE?

U GUYS REALLY HAVE NO IDEA, WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT.

U HAVE NEVER HAVE PROBLEM WITH HUMAN RIGHTS, THE PEOPLE (NATIONS) USA HAVE INVADED UNTILL TODAY THEY HAVE TERRORIZED SOME OTHER SMALL NATIONS. THEY INVADED SERBIA BECAUSE THEY KILLED AND TERRORIZED MANY OTHER NATIONS INSIDE YUGOSLLAVIA. (I KNOW SOME OF YOU GUYS LIKE SERBIA U THINK THEY ARE INOCENT, BUT I TELL U RIGHT NOW I WISH HITLER WAS ALIVE AND TAKE CARE OF THEM, BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE NAZIS THAN YOU GUYS CAN EVER IMAGINE). IRAQ: SADAM WAS THE LEADER OF AN TERRORIST REGIME WHO TERRORIZED SINCE YEARS OTHER NATIONS WITHIN IRAQ EVEN MADE CHEMICAL EXPERIMENTS IN THEM AS HI DID IN KOSOVO TOGETHER WITH SERBS BACK IN 1990, WHEN THEY POISONED ALL HIGH SCHOOLS AROUND KOSOVO, AND TODAY THOSE FACTS ARE ALIVE, EVERY DAY KIDS ARE BORN RETARDED, AND THOSE GENERATIONS ARE DAYING FROM CANCER, LEUKEMIA ETC, STRANGE SICKNES LIKE NEVER BEFORE IN THIS AREA. AFGANISTAN: NO COMMENT, THE NATION WAS ISOLATED AND THEY ARE SO BEHIND US THEY WILL NEED 100 OF YEARS TO REACH MY LEVEL I DONT HAVE TO TALK ABOUT YOURS. I UNDERSTAND YOUR VIEW OF PEACE BUT SOMTIME SOME NATIONS ARE GOOD PLAYERS, AND THEY HIDE BEHIND SYSTEMS AND REGULATIONS SOLONG THEY KICK AS AND EXTINGUISH OTHER NATIONS WITH WHATEVER THEY CAN. SO PLS DONT CRAP WITH ME ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS BECAUSE NON OF YOU EVER HAVE PROBLEM WITH. THANK YOU

hey, you leave all those little spuds alone :lol: :wink:

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KAQAK wrote:WOW, IM SHOCKED, WHERE DO YOU GUYS LIVE?

U GUYS REALLY HAVE NO IDEA, WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT.

U HAVE NEVER HAVE PROBLEM WITH HUMAN RIGHTS, THE PEOPLE (NATIONS) USA HAVE INVADED UNTILL TODAY THEY HAVE TERRORIZED SOME OTHER SMALL NATIONS. THEY INVADED SERBIA BECAUSE THEY KILLED AND TERRORIZED MANY OTHER NATIONS INSIDE YUGOSLLAVIA. (I KNOW SOME OF YOU GUYS LIKE SERBIA U THINK THEY ARE INOCENT, BUT I TELL U RIGHT NOW I WISH HITLER WAS ALIVE AND TAKE CARE OF THEM, BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE NAZIS THAN YOU GUYS CAN EVER IMAGINE). IRAQ: SADAM WAS THE LEADER OF AN TERRORIST REGIME WHO TERRORIZED SINCE YEARS OTHER NATIONS WITHIN IRAQ EVEN MADE CHEMICAL EXPERIMENTS IN THEM AS HI DID IN KOSOVO TOGETHER WITH SERBS BACK IN 1990, WHEN THEY POISONED ALL HIGH SCHOOLS AROUND KOSOVO, AND TODAY THOSE FACTS ARE ALIVE, EVERY DAY KIDS ARE BORN RETARDED, AND THOSE GENERATIONS ARE DAYING FROM CANCER, LEUKEMIA ETC, STRANGE SICKNES LIKE NEVER BEFORE IN THIS AREA. AFGANISTAN: NO COMMENT, THE NATION WAS ISOLATED AND THEY ARE SO BEHIND US THEY WILL NEED 100 OF YEARS TO REACH MY LEVEL I DONT HAVE TO TALK ABOUT YOURS. I UNDERSTAND YOUR VIEW OF PEACE BUT SOMTIME SOME NATIONS ARE GOOD PLAYERS, AND THEY HIDE BEHIND SYSTEMS AND REGULATIONS SOLONG THEY KICK AS AND EXTINGUISH OTHER NATIONS WITH WHATEVER THEY CAN. SO PLS DONT CRAP WITH ME ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS BECAUSE NON OF YOU EVER HAVE PROBLEM WITH. THANK YOU

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You can believe all that jingoistic claptrap if you want to, thats your right. In reality your lucky that the agenda of the American elite just happened to briefly correspond with your own, any other time and your KLA could just as easily have found themselves being pummeled by American bunker busters in another franchise of the 'Global War on Terror against Islamic Fundamentalism Inc." Your deluded if you think they bombed Serbia because the Serbs are nasty, I haven't noticed too many American bombs falling on Saudi Arabia, Burma, China or Russia lately, have you?

Still your free to indulge in your flag suckling fantasies, I just wish you'd do it elsewhere.

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REBEL GOONER wrote: they armed the israelis so they can kill innocent children,
I did not intend to further comment on this thread at all, but when I see a statement that is so dramatically incorrect I have to say something.

Israel has caused some children to die as regretable and terrible mistakes. Military missions attacking the people who attack Israel, have sometimes gone wrong, but the children are not the TARGET of the military action.

In fact, Israel treats a heck of a lot of Palestinian children in it's hospitals every day.

A few years ago, a helicopter strike on a terrorist car, when the Israeli pilot had the car locked on to his missile system, was in fact aborted as the pilot said over the radio he could not guarantee there would not be civilian deaths as a side effect.

The Hamas, Islamic Jihad, DFLP, Al Queda and Fatah suicide bombers on the other hand, have no such compassion.

They actually seek to kill civilians, and have actively targeted schools, school buses and restaurants.

Hezbollah launch missiles at Israeli territory with NO CONCERN who the missiles hit.
With NO WARNING before launch.
In fact, during the 2006 summer war, Hezbollah killed more Israeli Arabs than Israeli Jews.

Israeli in contrast, dropped leaflets over Lebanon telling the people to leave in the areas that were to be subsequently bombed.

We could argue the Israeli / Arab conflict here for ever, and it would probably just end up like the 9/11 thread, but whatever your views on the conflict, please recognise the substantial difference in tactics and intent from each side.

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QuartzGooner wrote:
REBEL GOONER wrote: they armed the israelis so they can kill innocent children,
I did not intend to further comment on this thread at all, but when I see a statement that is so dramatically incorrect I have to say something.

Israel has caused some children to die as regretable and terrible mistakes. Military missions attacking the people who attack Israel, have sometimes gone wrong, but the children are not the TARGET of the military action.

In fact, Israel treats a heck of a lot of Palestinian children in it's hospitals every day.

A few years ago, a helicopter strike on a terrorist car, when the Israeli pilot had the car locked on to his missile system, was in fact aborted as the pilot said over the radio he could not guarantee there would not be civilian deaths as a side effect.

The Hamas, Islamic Jihad, DFLP, Al Queda and Fatah suicide bombers on the other hand, have no such compassion.

They actually seek to kill civilians, and have actively targeted schools, school buses and restaurants.

Hezbollah launch missiles at Israeli territory with NO CONCERN who the missiles hit.
With NO WARNING before launch.
In fact, during the 2006 summer war, Hezbollah killed more Israeli Arabs than Israeli Jews.

Israeli in contrast, dropped leaflets over Lebanon telling the people to leave in the areas that were to be subsequently bombed.

We could argue the Israeli / Arab conflict here for ever, and it would probably just end up like the 9/11 thread, but whatever your views on the conflict, please recognise the substantial difference in tactics and intent from each side.
uh oh not this again.... you gotta remember you're not allowed to say anything about Israel or you're a NAZI FACT.

The facts and figures speak for themselves.

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Did you see the release party of the Hezbollah terrorists held in Beirut in July? One of them was lauded as some kind of super hero.

What did he do to deserve such a welcome home?

He killed a father in front of his wife and child, and then smashed the child's head in with a rifle.

That is the type of people Israeli is fighting.


No Goonarmy, the facts and figures do not speak for very much at all if you go by the Western Media's facts and figures.

Did you read my post or did you just comment up out of reflex?

Rebel made a one sided statement.
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Well done Stearmaster!

See what youve started now after you lit the blue touch paper and stood back!
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QuartzGooner wrote:
REBEL GOONER wrote: they armed the israelis so they can kill innocent children,
I did not intend to further comment on this thread at all, but when I see a statement that is so dramatically incorrect I have to say something.

Israel has caused some children to die as regretable and terrible mistakes. Military missions attacking the people who attack Israel, have sometimes gone wrong, but the children are not the TARGET of the military action.

In fact, Israel treats a heck of a lot of Palestinian children in it's hospitals every day.

A few years ago, a helicopter strike on a terrorist car, when the Israeli pilot had the car locked on to his missile system, was in fact aborted as the pilot said over the radio he could not guarantee there would not be civilian deaths as a side effect.

The Hamas, Islamic Jihad, DFLP, Al Queda and Fatah suicide bombers on the other hand, have no such compassion.

They actually seek to kill civilians, and have actively targeted schools, school buses and restaurants.

Hezbollah launch missiles at Israeli territory with NO CONCERN who the missiles hit.
With NO WARNING before launch.
In fact, during the 2006 summer war, Hezbollah killed more Israeli Arabs than Israeli Jews.

Israeli in contrast, dropped leaflets over Lebanon telling the people to leave in the areas that were to be subsequently bombed.

We could argue the Israeli / Arab conflict here for ever, and it would probably just end up like the 9/11 thread, but whatever your views on the conflict, please recognise the substantial difference in tactics and intent from each side.
This is the inevitable fallout of someone going wildly off topic with a divisive post. But anyway here goes...

The above is the standard argument forwarded by IDF spokemens and women, Israeli politicians and apologists.

Its main flaw is that Israeli forces have no legal right to be operating in the west bank or Gaza, they are considered in International law an illegal force of occupation. Every person they kill, be they a militant, civilian or otherwise is an unlawful killing. There is simply no legal basis for them to be there, regardless of how careful they claim to be when carrying out their "targeted assassinations" which if it were being performed by a state unprotected by American patronage would hardly be referred to in such banal terms.

Regardless I'm sure the fact that the Israelis claim that dead Palestinian children are an accident is little consolation to the parents of said dead children. Just as few words can comfort the relatives of victims of suicide bombings of the streets of West Jerusalem and Tel Aviv.

We all probably have a view on the Israel / Palestinian question, I've been there, can see both sides, favour a two state solutions and a peaceful co-existence of the two peoples, so please don't jump down my throat as being biased, but the above argument is just a little bit too partial and too convenient too be entirely true. Anyway I wish this topic had never started.

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But Israeli forces are not operating in Gaza on a permanent basis, only on anti terrorist missions.

Gaza was handed over to the Palestinians two years ago.

If you want to know about heartless repression, read up on the Egyptian rule of Gaza prior to 1967.

The West Bank?

What country is it?

Jordan gave it up in 1980.

They do not want it.

Who is Israel occupying it from?

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QuartzGooner wrote:Did you see the release party of the Hezbollah terrorists held in Beirut in July? One of them was lauded as some kind of super hero.

What did he do to deserve such a welcome home?

He killed a father in front of his wife and child, and then smashed the child's head in with a rifle.

That is the type of people Israeli is fighting.


No Goonarmy, the facts and figures do not speak for very much at all if you go by the Western Media's facts and figures.

Did you read my post or did you just comment up out of reflex?

Rebel made a one sided statement.
I did read your post, i just don't bother arguing with you anymore because i'll just be called a racist again. I just find your views wrong and frustrating and have come to realise there's no point getting involved anymore. To be honest my view is Israel should just be demolished and it's inhabitants relocated and that has nothing to do with race. Got nothing to do with Western media either, i find western media very pro israel.

Anyways mums the word when dealing with people like you, i'll just end up insulting someone or a group of people or what have you and we don't want that.

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I am not saying you are racist Goonarmy, I just believe that you are worked up over what you perceive to be injustices, that are in actuality not the series of events you believe them to have been.

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