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Radford149 · Post by **Radford149** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 11:30 am

Is a player English first then black or Black first then English? before you answer plaese think about it. again this may have been done before but i'm interested in what the vibe is and whether its changed. the reason is there maybe a time soon when we will have a completley Black or nearly Black England team (think NBA) i am prepared to be slated on this.

corkbarry · Post by **corkbarry** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:22 pm

Who gives a fuck, i'm only interested in how good they are

Post by **QuartzGooner** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 11:29 pm

Have to ask each black or Mixed Race England player what they feel. I cannot answer for them.

RaM · Post by **RaM** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:25 pm

Can't they be both at the same time?

I have a feeling though that some of them feel as if they are black first - look at the responses crowds get for making remarks about it.

Don't think you'd get the same frenzied rush of complaints if there were stereotpical 'pommy insults'.

Post by **SPUDMASHER** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:30 am

I think that the mature adults on this site don't even look at the colour of a players skin. As far as I'm concerned they are not black then English or English then black. They're just English! Period.
It seems to me that you're trying to cause contraversy here for no reason.

Cus Geezer · Post by **Cus Geezer** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:13 pm

Radford149 wrote:Is a player English first then black or Black first then English? before you answer plaese think about it. again this may have been done before but i'm interested in what the vibe is and whether its changed. the reason is there maybe a time soon when we will have a completley Black or nearly Black England team (think NBA) i am prepared to be slated on this.

Do you consider yourself white (presuming you are of course) first and English second or other way around?

Do you have any day to day consciousness that you are a colour?

And also ask the question - is Frank Lampard a person who amasses vast sums of wealth first and English second or other way around and whether an entire team of such players is of any greater significance than one that is entirely Black?

Chunky The Gooner · Post by **Chunky The Gooner** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:48 pm

corkbarry wrote:Who gives a fuck, i'm only interested in how good they are

Here Here

I had this at work years ago with " Arent you bothered that your team is mostly French?" I dont give a fuck as long as they are good enough

Post by **QuartzGooner** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:19 am

RaM wrote:Can't they be both at the same time?

I have a feeling though that some of them feel as if they are black first - look at the responses crowds get for making remarks about it.

Don't think you'd get the same frenzied rush of complaints if there were stereotpical 'pommy insults'.

But who cares about "Pommy" insults?

No one I know could care less about that.

Skin colour insults are a different thing altogether.

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