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I'm sorry I really don't buy this loyal servant stuff as much as I liked the man as a player .
He came back after his Watford sabbatical ,in 84 and did well enough for a time as the Youth Coach but has done nothing as assistant manager except hold the clip board or put the cones out .
If anyone could get through to Wenger it should have been him but he has chosen to remain silent ,mind you 1 million pounds a year is pretty good hush money !
The players don't respect him and ,if anyone has loyalty it's Arsenal to him not vice-verse as he has done very well out of the Club !
Last edited by Herd on Mon May 07, 2012 8:36 am, edited 1 time in total.
No one works at a place for decades if they are not happy, treated and paid well, but that doesnt mean they are not to be appreciated for their loyalty. Also there is nothing to suggest Pat have not countered Wenger's ideas, maybe he had behind closed doors (there have been couple of instances this season where they seemed to be having an argument during a game). It is upto Wenger to accept Pat's suggestions or not and whether Wenger is the type of person who would take suggestions onboard and consider implementing them is debatable. I personally don't think Pat is the yes man that most of us seem to think he is, its just that he worked under a man who has too much power and hates to delegate. If anything I feel sorry for Pat.
Herd wrote:I'm sorry I really don't buy this loyal servant stuff as much as I liked the man as a player .
He came back after his Watford sabbatical ,in 84 and did well enough for a time as the Youth Coach but has done nothing as assistant manager except hold the clip board or put the cones out .
If anyone could get through to Wenger it should have been him but he has chosen to remain silent ,mind you 1 million pounds a year is pretty good hush money !
The players don't respect him and ,if anyone has loyalty it's Arsenal to him not vice-verse as he has done very well out of the Club !
What has the Pat Rice ever done for us?
Just been involved various Cup runs (several European finals) recently the year after year of getting into the CL out of the groups, most exciting league win ever in '89, the relentless '91 Champions which only lost one game, '93 first ever domestic cup double, '94 CupWinners Cup, '98 League and FA Cup double, '02 League and FA Cup double, '03 FA Cup, '04 Unbeaten Invincible season, '05 FA Cup.
Yeah apart from that what has the Pat Rice ever done for us?
Herd wrote:I'm sorry I really don't buy this loyal servant stuff as much as I liked the man as a player .
He came back after his Watford sabbatical ,in 84 and did well enough for a time as the Youth Coach but has done nothing as assistant manager except hold the clip board or put the cones out .
If anyone could get through to Wenger it should have been him but he has chosen to remain silent ,mind you 1 million pounds a year is pretty good hush money !
The players don't respect him and ,if anyone has loyalty it's Arsenal to him not vice-verse as he has done very well out of the Club !
If the players don't respect someone who's put 40 odd years in at the club, that says way more about the players than Pat.
i'd bet you a pint Herd, that true professionals like Dennis, Cesc and the Famous Five had utter respect for both Pat and Bob, which is as is should be,
These kids can learn The Arsenal Way - or they can end up as drunks and rapists like pennant, bentley, bendtner and those sarf london chavs.
