Man Utd (H) Wednesday 12th February

[DB10GOONER]

Perfect for showing something fresh, maybe sticking AOC alongside Giroud, and go 3-5-2.
Not a chance.

Not sure about 3-5-2 tbh, but I've wondered about the possibility of Ox being played up front, depending on opposition - either alongside Giroud/Podolski or as one of those "false 9" fingermebobs.

"Fingermebobs"? Plural??!!

Just how many Roberts have fingered you?

[markyp]

One of the most frustrating aspects of the club, is the delusion by some fans, about certain players, especially Giroud. The guy is shit, plain and simple, shouldn't be anywhere near an Arsenal team. He has 10 league goals this season, Bendtner has two goals, having made fuck all starts, and would have the same amount of goals(if not more) having made the same amount of appearances, that says it all about our so called 'vital' striker. Everyone can see it, but of course wanker will stubbornly keep starting him, and when Podolski, the one actual decent finisher we have, leaves in the summer, we will be stuck with Giroud and Sanogo as our attacking options, well done Wenger on ruining a potentially great season, you money grabbing, arrogant prick.

ive always said this of Bendtner,give him a run and hed do no worse the Giroud.Barry plays under immense pressure to perform to try to justify a team place,giroud place with no pressure and still cant deliver,im not saying bendy is the answer,neither are,neither are good enough to lead the line for a club like Arsenal,but ffs last night you cant help feel that Bendy would have converted at least one last night,news years day (I think) against Cardiff springs to mind

[Its Up 4 Grabs Now]

Perfect for showing something fresh, maybe sticking AOC alongside Giroud, and go 3-5-2.
Not a chance.

Not sure about 3-5-2 tbh, but I've wondered about the possibility of Ox being played up front, depending on opposition - either alongside Giroud/Podolski or as one of those "false 9" fingermebobs.

"Fingermebobs"? Plural??!!

Just how many Roberts have fingered you?

You start out buttering the christmas turkey, then aunty's new boyfriend asks if he can "give you a hand", and just like that... Bob's your uncle.

[BFG4]

Perfect for showing something fresh, maybe sticking AOC alongside Giroud, and go 3-5-2.
Not a chance.

Not sure about 3-5-2 tbh, but I've wondered about the possibility of Ox being played up front, depending on opposition - either alongside Giroud/Podolski or as one of those "false 9" fingermebobs.

Could be a complete clusterfuck & obviously completely disgraceful that we're in a position to even have to consider it, but that said he's our only player with any sort of pace to run in behind. And he does at least have a lot of the attributes to play up front imo (more than Walcott, and certainly more than Arshavin ever did ) - strength, touch and intelligence to play with his back to goal when need be, no worse a finisher than Giroud in all likelihood, work rate to close down from the front, pretty sure he'd show better, more intelligent movement than Giroud too. Giroud's movement on the break (regardless of his lack of pace) is pathetic - he usually just clogs up the space and/or drags a defender into the area(s) we least want them. He always ends up looking like a relay runner jogging along in front waiting for the baton to be placed into his hand behind him. Or Quartz trundling along in the fast lane in his robin reliant while an addison lee driver motors up behind him trying to get past.

Doubt it would be anything more than a moderate success at best, but compared to perservering with the staus quo I'd give it a go. I've completely given up on Podolski being given any sort of prolonged run in the team, in any position.

Either that or if we're gonna stick with Giroud, play Ox in the middle with license to make those late runs forward the way Ramsey did. No point continuing to play the ball into Giroud's feet if we're not getting any runners beyond him. It's about the one thing he's been fairly consistent at, yet we're neutralising that strength ourselves, while still persisiting with him and all his other weaknesses.

Reguardless of wheter you rate Giroud, or not, it has become clear, that for his own good, he needs to be taken out of the team, he has become a liability, and in games when its tight, and you need a player who can finish the couple of chances you get, then Podolski is a lot more reliable in this situation.

[Theoperator]

Watched the 2nd half in a pub last night and thought, but wasnt sure, that I heard loud booing at the final whistle last night and a couple of papers confirmed it. Some Gooners will no doubt claim that it is a disgrace for a team lying 2nd to be booed off and no doubt that our cocooned board and players will be surprised, but this reaction has been on the cards since 11.01pm on Jan 31st - we all knew that the lack of signings allied to the inevitable collapse was going to draw an angry reaction from the fans and I dont think that we have seen the last by a long way. Should we go out of the cup on sunday then there will be major unrest and if he rotates his squad on sunday and it contributes to that defeat (ahead of the upcoming bayern dicking) then the man may need a police escort afterwards. If we dismiss the possibility of knocking bayern out of the champs league (which I believe all sane Gooners have) then the worst possible result for us would be an honourable defeat - if we are to lose then I want us to take a right beating so that it will show le cock how far off the pace we are in europe, plus it would hopefully allow him and the players to put their focus on the more important domestic competitions.

Agree with all mate- yes the booing was exceedingly loud indeed at the final whistle, especially perhaps as only a few cleared off near the end as usually happens. I didnt see the team thanking the fans either at the end, but may have missed that.

Manure really were total shite- and how we managed to avoid scoring is a disgrace.

Think its unfair to say all played badly- surely the defence/ BFG & Kos did well, Gibbs especially, shows the contrast with Monreal who just isnt nearly as good. One lovely sight was Sagna sprinting past Mata who had the ball- Mata seemed to have a poor game.

Ozil I thought was a lot better, much more energy and tempo but still isnt quite there. Wilshere as usual put in a good one though he and especially TR7 gave the ball away far far far too easily. Giroud though really was so appallingly poor- one skyed shot was just awful.

1 point against them out of 6 is piss poor and may well be the difference between winning the league and coming 5th

And FFS I think its really really really poor to blame and get at fans for going to watch their team play, what has it all come to. (rhetorical question before you all jump at answering it.) Not going NEVER achieves anything, sure if you dont want to pay silly prices I can understand it, but you will hardly get a manager out by not going. Maybe Banners etc smuggled in especially at away matches will get more attention than an absent person replaced by a tourist

[Its Up 4 Grabs Now]

One of the most frustrating aspects of the club, is the delusion by some fans, about certain players, especially Giroud. The guy is shit, plain and simple, shouldn't be anywhere near an Arsenal team. He has 10 league goals this season, Bendtner has two goals, having made fuck all starts, and would have the same amount of goals(if not more) having made the same amount of appearances, that says it all about our so called 'vital' striker. Everyone can see it, but of course wanker will stubbornly keep starting him, and when Podolski, the one actual decent finisher we have, leaves in the summer, we will be stuck with Giroud and Sanogo as our attacking options, well done Wenger on ruining a potentially great season, you money grabbing, arrogant prick.

ive always said this of Bendtner,give him a run and hed do no worse the Giroud.Barry plays under immense pressure to perform to try to justify a team place,giroud place with no pressure and still cant deliver,im not saying bendy is the answer,neither are,neither are good enough to lead the line for a club like Arsenal,but ffs last night you cant help feel that Bendy would have converted at least one last night,news years day (I think) against Cardiff springs to mind

Giroud isn't good enough, but wanting the Kung-Fu Pansy in the team is too far!

He may have scored more goals - at best it would only have been a couple of more imo and none in the big games - but our general play would also have suffered relative to having Giroud in the team, not that that's saying much at all. Giroud's link-up play, "assists", workrate, etc have become overrated but over the course of the season he has created more chances/goals for others than Bendtner ever would have, and more than enough to compensate for any extra goals he might have scored too. Any time I even remotely think Bendtner might be an option I just remember that chance at Barcelona.

[markyp]

One of the most frustrating aspects of the club, is the delusion by some fans, about certain players, especially Giroud. The guy is shit, plain and simple, shouldn't be anywhere near an Arsenal team. He has 10 league goals this season, Bendtner has two goals, having made fuck all starts, and would have the same amount of goals(if not more) having made the same amount of appearances, that says it all about our so called 'vital' striker. Everyone can see it, but of course wanker will stubbornly keep starting him, and when Podolski, the one actual decent finisher we have, leaves in the summer, we will be stuck with Giroud and Sanogo as our attacking options, well done Wenger on ruining a potentially great season, you money grabbing, arrogant prick.

ive always said this of Bendtner,give him a run and hed do no worse the Giroud.Barry plays under immense pressure to perform to try to justify a team place,giroud place with no pressure and still cant deliver,im not saying bendy is the answer,neither are,neither are good enough to lead the line for a club like Arsenal,but ffs last night you cant help feel that Bendy would have converted at least one last night,news years day (I think) against Cardiff springs to mind

Giroud isn't good enough, but wanting the Kung-Fu Pansy in the team is too far!

He may have scored more goals - at best it would only have been a couple of more imo and none in the big games - but our general play would also have suffered relative to having Giroud in the team, not that that's saying much at all. Giroud's link-up play, "assists", workrate, etc have become overrated but over the course of the season he has created more chances/goals for others than Bendtner ever would have, and more than enough to compensate for any extra goals he might have scored too. Any time I even remotely think Bendtner might be an option I just remember that chance at Barcelona.

Girouds misses far out way any by Barry,man city away this season still haunts me,last night was a joke again,wait till Bayern when he misses our only chance of the game

[spendsum4uckingmoney]

We had better get our act together fast or 4th place itself might not be guaranteed.

[Its Up 4 Grabs Now]

Girouds misses far out way any by Barry,man city away this season still haunts me,last night was a joke again,wait till Bayern when he misses our only chance of the game

I don't doubt that for a second. It's not a defence of Giroud in any way at all, just that Barry over the same length of time would have been even worse imo.

[augie]

I would never, ever call for that Danish dick to get a game for us

[DB10GOONER]

Some absolutely silly statements on this thread saying Bendtner would have done as well as or better than Giroud. Absolute rubbish. Giroud is far far from world class but he is a million times better than the Fat Danish Drunk ever will be or ever has been. Bendtner has zero first touch, terrible technique, sometimes cannot even make contact with the actual fucking football at his feet, is absolutely fucking atrocious in the air, lazy beyond belief and wouldn't show for a tenth of the balls Giroud shows for. Sorry, no fucking way you can compare the two. Ridiculous.

[Gunner Rob]

That was the most boring fucking shit I have witnessed Arsenal play. Pass, pass, pass, pass, pass to Giroud, lose the ball, pass, pass pass etc. What a load of cock.

I was one of those who caved in and bought a ticket for the Bayern match next week, and I am regretting it. Not only am I certain to see my team get dicked before my very eyes, I am also funding that sponges new 8mil a year contract.

whilst there are enough people like you then expect to see no change at the club.
you are not only funding Wenger's new contract, you are ensuring that he will get one.

So it's all my fault then is it? Not the people that actually want him in the club (namely the akb's and the board).

sorry but yes it is.
by buying a ticket for next week you are propping up Wenger and the board whether you like it or not.

as a red member I make sure to boycott all category A games. If everyone did the same there would be no category A prices!

surely short term pain for long term gain is better than the groundhog day scenario which we are now seeing played out again and again

[augie]

Took me a few years of agonising before I gave up my season tickets so I certainly wouldnt judge those who still pay their money to watch the team and I think that having a go at them is harsh (although I can understand the thinking behind it). What bothers me more is how fans react when they are inside the ground - I will never be happy with the singing of "there's only 1" but I also get frustrated at the free pass wenker and the team get the vast majority of the time. I understand the comments from some fans saying that "you are there to support not boo" etc etc but at the end of the day I am spending hard earned money (and big money at that) and I will not accept the same failed bullshit football and tactics year in and year out just because others dont feel that it is right to complain

[DB10GOONER]

I also think it is absolutely unfair to single out fans that still attend. It is their choice. And whether or not they attend, Arsene will be boss until Arsene decides otherwise. Not being flippant there - unfortunately that is a fact.

[Gunner Rob]

I am not having a go at season ticket holders but the Bayern game is not on the season ticket.

that is why it is a unique opportunity to protest.