Not sure what youre point is tbh. Out of all those countries, Turkey is highly likely to be offered membership of the EU because they have struck a deal to stop refugees trying to make the journey to Greece in exchange for $$ and a serious discussion about joining the EU. One of my point's is to do with the effect of immigration from all EU countries to the UK. I appreciate the Albanian has slightly sidetracked the arguement, but don't forget a lot of doctors come from and are trained in India. Do you want to ban them as well?Chippy wrote:For an intelligent bloke you do talk some cobblers. There as much chance of Turkey, Serbia, Kosovo and Albania joining the EU in the next 20 years as me becoming the queen of Ireland.northbank123 wrote:Ah the old 'net economic benefit' propaganda - merely because taxation receipts outweigh welfare payments.
Nut Flush do you honestly think that unchecked immigration from Serbia, Kosovo, Albania etc would be beneficial for the UK?
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Don't take it personally, you are entitled to your opinion - but I will put a constructive argument against anything that is said that I don't think is correct or accurate. I don't understand why you keep rejecting the economic data that suggests that migration of all forms not just the EU is beneficial to the UK. Every group that has come to this country since the 50/60s when the Asians/Indians amongst other groups came to the UK has made a significant contribution in building what is one of the biggest economies in the world today.northbank123 wrote:I didn't suggest that they were on the verge of joining - but those particular countries have been mentioned on the past few pages and Nut Flush responded to concerns about south/eastwards expansion with the old "immigration has net economic benefit" line. Just seeing how far that goes for him. Although given the strategic security importance of Turkey it is hardly unlikely that their membership will be fast-tracked.Chippy wrote:For an intelligent bloke you do talk some cobblers. There as much chance of Turkey, Serbia, Kosovo and Albania joining the EU in the next 20 years as me becoming the queen of Ireland.northbank123 wrote:Ah the old 'net economic benefit' propaganda - merely because taxation receipts outweigh welfare payments.
Nut Flush do you honestly think that unchecked immigration from Serbia, Kosovo, Albania etc would be beneficial for the UK?
And you can turn down the condescension several notches - yes people have staunch views and its evidently an emotive topic but you seem determined on this thread to paint anybody who wants to leave as an idiot.
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Believe me Turkey will not join the EU in my life time. It will never meet the criteria while it has this quasi-fascist government.
http://qpol.qub.ac.uk/turkey-long-way-joining-eu/
http://qpol.qub.ac.uk/turkey-long-way-joining-eu/
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nut flush gooner - you are a bit of a paradox...
On this thread you seem very keen on "foreigners" coming to the UK (unless I'm misinterpreting your comments) and yet on the Manc Logic thread you appear not so keen on "foreigners" supporting Arsenal?
Are you being a tad selective - or as I say, am I misinterpreting your comments?
On this thread you seem very keen on "foreigners" coming to the UK (unless I'm misinterpreting your comments) and yet on the Manc Logic thread you appear not so keen on "foreigners" supporting Arsenal?
Are you being a tad selective - or as I say, am I misinterpreting your comments?
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Turkey has a close relationship with Germany and if they can get in they will.Chippy wrote:Believe me Turkey will not join the EU in my life time. It will never meet the criteria while it has this quasi-fascist government.
http://qpol.qub.ac.uk/turkey-long-way-joining-eu/
They shouldn't be allowed to as they still illegally occupy half of Cyprus, a member state since 2004. One of the terms of EU membership is to not show any military force against a fellow member state. Until a solution can be agreed on Cyprus then Turkey should not be allowed anywhere near the EU.
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There are people from certain communities that would point to Northern Ireland in response to that comment, you know.Nos89 wrote:Turkey has a close relationship with Germany and if they can get in they will.Chippy wrote:Believe me Turkey will not join the EU in my life time. It will never meet the criteria while it has this quasi-fascist government.
http://qpol.qub.ac.uk/turkey-long-way-joining-eu/
They shouldn't be allowed to as they still illegally occupy half of Cyprus, a member state since 2004. One of the terms of EU membership is to not show any military force against a fellow member state. Until a solution can be agreed on Cyprus then Turkey should not be allowed anywhere near the EU.
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I think you are misinterpreting my comments. There's a big difference between a European migrant who wants to come to the UK to work, pay taxes and naturally better themselves versus a yank who goes onto social media and spouts rubbish like he's been a gooner all his life.DB10GOONER wrote:nut flush gooner - you are a bit of a paradox...
On this thread you seem very keen on "foreigners" coming to the UK (unless I'm misinterpreting your comments) and yet on the Manc Logic thread you appear not so keen on "foreigners" supporting Arsenal?
Are you being a tad selective - or as I say, am I misinterpreting your comments?
You gotta stop taking these 3 hours lunches .
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I've read up about this again, the deal seems to be visa focused rather than offering full blown membership. Fair enough.Chippy wrote:Believe me Turkey will not join the EU in my life time. It will never meet the criteria while it has this quasi-fascist government.
http://qpol.qub.ac.uk/turkey-long-way-joining-eu/
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Can't. It's in my contract.nut flush gooner wrote:I think you are misinterpreting my comments. There's a big difference between a European migrant who wants to come to the UK to work, pay taxes and naturally better themselves versus a yank who goes onto social media and spouts rubbish like he's been a gooner all his life.DB10GOONER wrote:nut flush gooner - you are a bit of a paradox...
On this thread you seem very keen on "foreigners" coming to the UK (unless I'm misinterpreting your comments) and yet on the Manc Logic thread you appear not so keen on "foreigners" supporting Arsenal?
Are you being a tad selective - or as I say, am I misinterpreting your comments?
You gotta stop taking these 3 hours lunches .
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Yeah, I can understand the similarities.DB10GOONER wrote:There are people from certain communities that would point to Northern Ireland in response to that comment, you know.Nos89 wrote:Turkey has a close relationship with Germany and if they can get in they will.Chippy wrote:Believe me Turkey will not join the EU in my life time. It will never meet the criteria while it has this quasi-fascist government.
http://qpol.qub.ac.uk/turkey-long-way-joining-eu/
They shouldn't be allowed to as they still illegally occupy half of Cyprus, a member state since 2004. One of the terms of EU membership is to not show any military force against a fellow member state. Until a solution can be agreed on Cyprus then Turkey should not be allowed anywhere near the EU.
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Getting my Irish passport application ready as we speak.
to be sure.
to be sure.
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Sorry, mate - I don't think we accept applications from trans-gender chubbies.arseofacrow wrote:Getting my Irish passport application ready as we speak.
to be sure.
We are not THAT pc here.
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Sometimes when I come on this thread I think of Alf garnett with some of the shit that gets spewed, so just to lighten up the mood, here's a classic with Alf's take on europe .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB8urDHETYM
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Who said that?DB10GOONER wrote:Sorry, mate - I don't think we accept applications from trans-gender chubbies.arseofacrow wrote:Getting my Irish passport application ready as we speak.
to be sure.
We are not THAT pc here.
Yet.