Premier League Doping Scandal

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Premier League Doping Scandal

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Sunday Times are running a story tomorrow about clubs and players being caught doping.

My money is on the two teams above us.

:popcorn:

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Man Utd or the Chavs and the FA have known for years but done fuck all. Hope it's the scum though.

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MrT wrote:Sunday Times are running a story tomorrow about clubs and players being caught doping.

My money is on the two teams above us.

:popcorn:
Meaning we win the league by default. :barscarf: :barscarf:

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All the rumours are about Spurs and Leicester. I would not be surprised in the least if either of those two were implicated. They've played every match for most of the season at 100% with barely any injuries and look physically superior to every team they play against. Look at xxxxx today, still sprinting in the 91st minute like he's just had about 10 red bulls. Read somewhere their distance covered stats are insane in comparison to other clubs.

Been reading we have players involved too. :D
IDontLikeSpurs ‏@IDontLikeSpurs 3m3 minutes ago

Apparently, the players who where doping where; 7 from Leicester, 2 from Spurs, 1 Arsenal & few from City, Utd, Chelsea & other clubs

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MrT wrote:All the rumours are about Spurs and Leicester. I would not be surprised in the least if either of those two were implicated. They've played every match for most of the season at 100% with barely any injuries and look physically superior to every team they play against. Look at xxxxx today, still sprinting in the 91st minute like he's just had about 10 red bulls. Read somewhere their distance covered stats are insane in comparison to other clubs.

Been reading we have players involved too. :D
We have dopey players no question. :D Any doping? not so sure

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[quote="MrT"]All the rumours are about Spurs and Leicester. I would not be surprised in the least if either of those two were implicated. They've played every match for most of the season at 100% with barely any injuries and look physically superior to every team they play against. Look at xxxxx today, still sprinting in the 91st minute like he's just had about 10 red bulls. Read somewhere their distance covered stats are insane in comparison to other clubs.

Been reading we have players involved too. :D


And we're still only in third, can't do anything right. :wink:

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casgooner wrote:
MrT wrote:All the rumours are about Spurs and Leicester. I would not be surprised in the least if either of those two were implicated. They've played every match for most of the season at 100% with barely any injuries and look physically superior to every team they play against. Look at Eriksen today, still sprinting in the 91st minute like he's just had about 10 red bulls. Read somewhere their distance covered stats are insane in comparison to other clubs.

Been reading we have players involved too. :D


And we're still only in third, can't do anything right. :wink:
:lol:

Don't mean to turn this into a twatter gossip thread but a weird thing happened now. Jamie Vardy just liked this tweet from a gooner who apparently has some inside sources, then unliked it. A fucking random tweet to like at this time. Or it could mean he's coming to Arsenal. No idea what's going on.

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After Wenger's comments about doping in football if they find one of our players, the authorities will slaughter us. May also indirectly affect Wenger secure position. After all it was non footballing issue that saw Graham's tenure end. I'd suggest they investigate Barcelona as well.

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Pumping Messi full of HGH for years and years (albeit as a legitimate medical treatment) must have given him an advantage when it comes to quickness and strength.

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Guys can we be very careful here please. Do not use any names unless you are quoting from a reliable source e.g. the Sunday Times, otherwise we might get done for libel. I have edited names out of a couple of posts above. Cheers.

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Oops ALLEGEDLY we have been up to it to! :shock: ALLEGEDLY not Tottnum though. Will we ever find out and its it the truth anyway? According to the Independent.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football ... al-Chelsea

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northbank123 wrote:Pumping Messi full of HGH for years and years (albeit as a legitimate medical treatment) must have given him an advantage when it comes to quickness and strength.
Absolutely. Even if he was the most skilful footballer ever, he was given artificial help to achieve something which would have prevented him being good enough. It's the same as being an incredibly accurate and technically correct bowler in cricket but being too small to generate enough pace and bounce, therefore, you don't make it. At the end of the day, if he hadn't have been given growth hormones, he wouldn't have been able to achieve what he has achieved and would have been released by his club at 15 or whatever. But it's Barcelona, so nobody cares at UEFA or FIFA. If it was some small club in Eastern Europe, the bloke would have been banned for five years.
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Whilst I don't think that dopers deserve media protection, I have to say that it is pretty piss-poor investigative journalism to identify one doctor and then speculatively smear a few clubs whilst admitting that they have no evidence to substantiate it.

Obviously they have exhausted their avenues hence why they have published this garbage now rather than waiting until they had further details and actually namin alleged culprits.

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northbank123 wrote:Whilst I don't think that dopers deserve media protection, I have to say that it is pretty piss-poor investigative journalism to identify one doctor and then speculatively smear a few clubs whilst admitting that they have no evidence to substantiate it.

Obviously they have exhausted their avenues hence why they have published this garbage now rather than waiting until they had further details and actually namin alleged culprits.
I agree, at the moment it's just a nothing story. I thought we were going to get names with substantiated evidence. I think this story will just disappear unless clubs like Arsenal and Chelsea decide to sue for libel. I haven't actually seen the Times article, I just read bits second hand from the net.

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casgooner wrote:
northbank123 wrote:Whilst I don't think that dopers deserve media protection, I have to say that it is pretty piss-poor investigative journalism to identify one doctor and then speculatively smear a few clubs whilst admitting that they have no evidence to substantiate it.

Obviously they have exhausted their avenues hence why they have published this garbage now rather than waiting until they had further details and actually namin alleged culprits.
I agree, at the moment it's just a nothing story. I thought we were going to get names with substantiated evidence. I think this story will just disappear unless clubs like Arsenal and Chelsea decide to sue for libel. I haven't actually seen the Times article, I just read bits second hand from the net.
And I would be surprised if any of the clubs decide to pursue legal action because it will just give the story more legs, credibility and traction. Easy enough at this stage just to issue a complete rebuttal and point out the story's admitted lack of evidence.

Besides, I understand that the story has conceded that the clubs had no particular dealings with this bloke and it was individual players, so doubt any legal action would be viable (particularly given that defamation is an incredibly difficult action to succeed with here).

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