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voting labour for the first time in years, because there is literally no choice. may is a cretin
I am a Labour voter by instinct,but will probably not vote this time.
May is useless,Corbyn is well meaning but in my opinion naive when it comes to the pc cosying up to extremists,and the thought of Diane Abbott as Home Secretary is fucking scary.
Have you noticed how the Labour Party have kept her away from interviews lately,claiming she is a bit poorly. Even they have realised what a liability she is.
As for the Lib Dems,(pc United),and UKIP,a party which has descended into a crackpot free for all,no way I would vote for either.
If TUSC had been standing in my constituency I would have voted for them,but they aren't
so you are happy for the Tories to keep destroying the country.
Well done
Mate,I have been a branch secretary for a Labour Party ward,been on a constituency GMC,and even worked at Walworth Road during a General Election.I even have a photograph of me with Tony Benn during the Miners Strike.
I just think that none of the current candidates for running the country are credible,and think that just voting for slightly the less worse of a bad bunch is not a good enough reason to cast a vote.
well I agree that all the candidates are CRAP but I ignore all that and focus on the policies. This isnt America where we are voting for a president.
anyone not voting is saying that they are happy with current policies - fair enough if you are ok with that.
If it is true that Corbyn has just sacked Abbott,then I will vote Labour tomorrow.
I am a Labour voter by instinct,but will probably not vote this time.
May is useless,Corbyn is well meaning but in my opinion naive when it comes to the pc cosying up to extremists,and the thought of Diane Abbott as Home Secretary is fucking scary.
Have you noticed how the Labour Party have kept her away from interviews lately,claiming she is a bit poorly. Even they have realised what a liability she is.
As for the Lib Dems,(pc United),and UKIP,a party which has descended into a crackpot free for all,no way I would vote for either.
If TUSC had been standing in my constituency I would have voted for them,but they aren't
so you are happy for the Tories to keep destroying the country.
Well done
Mate,I have been a branch secretary for a Labour Party ward,been on a constituency GMC,and even worked at Walworth Road during a General Election.I even have a photograph of me with Tony Benn during the Miners Strike.
I just think that none of the current candidates for running the country are credible,and think that just voting for slightly the less worse of a bad bunch is not a good enough reason to cast a vote.
well I agree that all the candidates are CRAP but I ignore all that and focus on the policies. This isnt America where we are voting for a president.
anyone not voting is saying that they are happy with current policies - fair enough if you are ok with that.
If it is true that Corbyn has just sacked Abbott,then I will vote Labour tomorrow.
so you are happy for the Tories to keep destroying the country.
Well done
Mate,I have been a branch secretary for a Labour Party ward,been on a constituency GMC,and even worked at Walworth Road during a General Election.I even have a photograph of me with Tony Benn during the Miners Strike.
I just think that none of the current candidates for running the country are credible,and think that just voting for slightly the less worse of a bad bunch is not a good enough reason to cast a vote.
well I agree that all the candidates are CRAP but I ignore all that and focus on the policies. This isnt America where we are voting for a president.
anyone not voting is saying that they are happy with current policies - fair enough if you are ok with that.
If it is true that Corbyn has just sacked Abbott,then I will vote Labour tomorrow.
She's ill not sacked
Nah she got lost on the tube and couldn't remember where she was going!...
so you are happy for the Tories to keep destroying the country.
Well done
Mate,I have been a branch secretary for a Labour Party ward,been on a constituency GMC,and even worked at Walworth Road during a General Election.I even have a photograph of me with Tony Benn during the Miners Strike.
I just think that none of the current candidates for running the country are credible,and think that just voting for slightly the less worse of a bad bunch is not a good enough reason to cast a vote.
well I agree that all the candidates are CRAP but I ignore all that and focus on the policies. This isnt America where we are voting for a president.
anyone not voting is saying that they are happy with current policies - fair enough if you are ok with that.
If it is true that Corbyn has just sacked Abbott,then I will vote Labour tomorrow.
She's ill not sacked
By ill,he means keeping her out of the way until after the election.
I was going on what "Allgunsblazin" posted.
I am no political pushover, seen more elections than you all put together
But in all seriousness there is something wrong with Dianne Abbott, something is not quite right and even though I cannot stand Jeremy and his Socialist Worker henchmen (remember that one precious!) I will give the benefit of the doubt as I do care about people and feel the lady should be given a break...BTW Jeremy has fucked up on screen and he is not ill, just fucking dumb if you ask me!...
Loved her on the Andrew Neill political show... Get well soon Dianne
I'm a public sector worker and if you listen to Corbyn most of what he says should benefit me personally. Nevertheless I shall find myself voting for May today.
Corbyn is a socialist idealist. There is no way on earth he can deliver 30% of the manifesto as the combined wealth of every sheik and oligarch would be insufficient to fund it. He is a dreamer.
When I look at the two realistic options I wonder which of them I would want on the world stage representing this country. For me that is the easiest question to answer in this election. Corbyn is a joke outside his own circle. I imagine Merkel eating him up and spitting him out with consummate ease. I don't think May would be so easy to devour.
The most frightening thing for me in this election is the prospect of Corbyn becoming prime minister and having Sturgeon in the background pulling his strings. The ginger dwarf is pure poison and should not be trusted by anyone other than a hardline Scottish partisan.
If it's May then we have some tough times ahead. If it's Corbyn then we're totally fucked!
I'm a public sector worker and if you listen to Corbyn most of what he says should benefit me personally. Nevertheless I shall find myself voting for May today.
Corbyn is a socialist idealist. There is no way on earth he can deliver 30% of the manifesto as the combined wealth of every sheik and oligarch would be insufficient to fund it. He is a dreamer.
When I look at the two realistic options I wonder which of them I would want on the world stage representing this country. For me that is the easiest question to answer in this election. Corbyn is a joke outside his own circle. I imagine Merkel eating him up and spitting him out with consummate ease. I don't think May would be so easy to devour.
The most frightening thing for me in this election is the prospect of Corbyn becoming prime minister and having Sturgeon in the background pulling his strings. The ginger dwarf is pure poison and should not be trusted by anyone other than a hardline Scottish partisan.
If it's May then we have some tough times ahead. If it's Corbyn then we're totally fucked!
I'm a public sector worker and if you listen to Corbyn most of what he says should benefit me personally. Nevertheless I shall find myself voting for May today.
Corbyn is a socialist idealist. There is no way on earth he can deliver 30% of the manifesto as the combined wealth of every sheik and oligarch would be insufficient to fund it. He is a dreamer.
When I look at the two realistic options I wonder which of them I would want on the world stage representing this country. For me that is the easiest question to answer in this election. Corbyn is a joke outside his own circle. I imagine Merkel eating him up and spitting him out with consummate ease. I don't think May would be so easy to devour.
The most frightening thing for me in this election is the prospect of Corbyn becoming prime minister and having Sturgeon in the background pulling his strings. The ginger dwarf is pure poison and should not be trusted by anyone other than a hardline Scottish partisan.
If it's May then we have some tough times ahead. If it's Corbyn then we're totally fucked!
How nice of you to put the rich first.
I'm sure that they will appreciate it.
Of course Corbyn can't deliver all his promises, but will Theresa May deliver all of hers?
I doubt it, and thats why I will always be prepared to take a chance on Labour.
It's not about putting the rich first. I'm a public sector worker on a lower wage than I can earn elsewhere. I'm capped to 1% salary increases and my job is constantly at threat to the cuts being made. I'm also aware that the problems of the country overall outweigh my individual concerns.
Anyway, what's wrong with being rich? You say it like it is a dirty word. Whilst there are rich people out there solely due to family inheritances etc. there are also a lot of rich people out there who are so because they worked fucking hard to earn their wealth. What's wrong with that?
This myth that the rich don't pay their way is nothing more than Daily Mail nonsense. The more you earn the more you pay. Those on high incomes that are self employed are the ones that use tax avoidance schemes. If you want to get them then you have to make new legislation. The problem with legislation is that it cannot be selective. You can't bring in a rule to 'catch the rich'. it has to be the same for everyone and that will always affect lower earning self employed people.
Beating up on the rich for having the audacity to be so is nothing more than jealousy.
It's not about putting the rich first. I'm a public sector worker on a lower wage than I can earn elsewhere. I'm capped to 1% salary increases and my job is constantly at threat to the cuts being made. I'm also aware that the problems of the country overall outweigh my individual concerns.
Anyway, what's wrong with being rich? You say it like it is a dirty word. Whilst there are rich people out there solely due to family inheritances etc. there are also a lot of rich people out there who are so because they worked fucking hard to earn their wealth. What's wrong with that?
This myth that the rich don't pay their way is nothing more than Daily Mail nonsense. The more you earn the more you pay. Those on high incomes that are self employed are the ones that use tax avoidance schemes. If you want to get them then you have to make new legislation. The problem with legislation is that it cannot be selective. You can't bring in a rule to 'catch the rich'. it has to be the same for everyone and that will always affect lower earning self employed people.
Beating up on the rich for having the audacity to be so is nothing more than jealousy.
nothing wrong with being rich but the Tories policies make the rich richer and that's where I have a problem with them.
you even state that you are capped at 1% and your job is constantly under threat. yet you are going to vote for them again ?????
Yes I will, because the tories are the only option capable of getting us through the next couple of years. Corbyn has already declared that he would never leave the EU without some kind of deal. He's showed his hand to them already! Where is their incentive to negotiate now? Our futures depend on this negotiation and the lefty has told his European counterparts that he's a soft touch and is scared of what the outcome might be. they'll tear him to pieces as a result of that.
On personal levels I have big issues with him as a character. He has supported terrorism in Northern Ireland and still refuses to condemn the IRA. When pressed on it he will only state that he condemns 'all' what went on there. That's selling out our troops and the security services that died, not to mention the innocent victims of the troubles. He is gutless to the extreme. He is totally against any kind of nuclear deterrent and steadfastly refuses to answer any questions about the use of weapons as defence. He is as weak a party leader as any party has had in the last 50 years. He's incompetent and if by some stroke of luck he does win this election then the UK is royally fucked both at home and abroad.
Jeremy Corbyn and Diane Abbot are the political equivalent of Laurel and Hardy. They're not fit to manage a crèche let alone govern a country.
The tories are far from ideal but I don't see Labour as being a credible alternative.
