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1,000% Correct Mate.

Source: BBC:

The UK government has announced more individuals and companies that it is sanctioning following the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
But there are still several Russian individuals who have been sanctioned by the US or the EU but not by the UK.
Their names appeared on a list of 35 people who Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny suggested should be sanctioned, which was read out in parliament by Liberal Democrat MP Layla Moran.

Oleg Deripaska

An industrialist with close ties to President Putin, Mr Deripaska has been sanctioned in the US since April 2018, with the US Treasury saying he had been "investigated for money laundering, and has been accused of threatening the lives of business rivals, illegally wiretapping a government official, and taking part in extortion and racketeering. There are also allegations that Deripaska bribed a government official, ordered the murder of a businessman, and had links to a Russian organized crime group."
He owns 45% of the aluminium company EN+, which listed on the London Stock Exchange in 2017, raising $1.5bn (£1.1bn), and currently has former Conservative energy minister Lord Barker as its executive chairman.

The US introduced sanctions against EN+ in April 2018, but these were lifted the following year after Mr Deripaska reduced his holding in the company.

We have contacted Mr Deripaska for comment.


Others under sanctions elsewhere

There are five other individuals named by Mr Navalny who appear on the EU or the US sanctions list but not on the UK's.
Andrey Kostin, president of the Russian state-owned VTB bank, is currently only on the US list of sanctioned individuals.
The UK has added VTB Capital - listed on the London Stock Exchange (LSE) - to the list of sanctioned entities. The LSE suspended the bank on 25 February.

Alexander Kalashnikov, added by the EU to their list of human rights violators, was sacked as director of Russia's Federal Penitentiary Service in 2021, after a scandal concerning the widespread practice of torture in Russian prisons.

Victor Zolotov, also on the EU list but not on the UK's, leads Russia's National Guard. His family is one of the richest in Russia in the real estate sector.

Alexei Miller, chairman of the management committee of Gazprom, and Igor Sechin, president of Rosneft (and former deputy Russian prime minister), both appear on the US list but not the UK's.

Roman Abramovich
Another prominent name that features on Mr Navalny's list is Chelsea FC owner Roman Abramovich.

Mr Abramovich is not under any sanctions by the UK, the EU or the US.

The Russian billionaire made a vast fortune in oil following the breakup of the Soviet Union.

He now owns a large property portfolio, including a mansion in Kensington, London.
(Anyone know this cun.ts address?)

Several MPs in the UK have called for Mr Abramovich's assets to be sanctioned, alleging close ties to the Kremlin which the billionaire denies.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson had to correct himself after he mistakenly told parliament Mr Abramovich was facing sanctions, and UK Foreign Secretary Liz Truss has refused to say if the government was considering sanctioning the Russian oligarch.

Labour MP Chris Bryant has quoted a leaked Home Office document from 2019, which he said showed that Mr Abramovich was a potential target for sanctions by the UK government back then.

The document quoted in parliament said this was "due to his links to the Russian state and his public association with corrupt activity and practices… An example of this is Abramovich admitting in court proceedings that he paid for political influence."

Mr Bryant added: "That's nearly three years ago. And yet remarkably little has been done."

Mr Abramovich has previously denied having close financial ties with Vladimir Putin or the Kremlin. [See Photo]


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We have contacted him for a response on the latest comments.



Russian companies
In addition to individuals there have been questions in parliament about why action has not been taken against some Russian companies.
Gazprom is one of the world's biggest natural gas companies and is partly state-owned.[Mr Abramovich is the Major Share Owner].

The US has sanctions against Gazprom but the UK does not.

The same is true of Rosneft, the Russian oil company, which is 40% owned by the Russian state, and 20% owned by British oil giant BP.
In the House of Commons on 24 February, Liberal Democrat leader Ed Davey referred to Rosneft and asked: "Will the prime minister commit to banning UK investment in Russian oil and gas companies, with immediate effect?"
Boris Johnson replied that the UK "must move away from all our dependencies on Russian oil and gas, and that is the objective of the UK government" but did not address Mr Davey's point directly.

On Friday, members of the House of Lords questioned why Rosneft and Gazprom were not on the government's sanctions list.
How many entities are sanctioned?
In his statement to the House of Commons on Thursday, Boris Johnson said "we will be imposing asset freezes on more than 100 new entities and individuals, on top of the hundreds that we have already announced".

But the government's sanctions list only named six companies and five individuals with new sanctions against them.

We have asked the government to clarify the names of the rest of those sanctioned.

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Gunner Rob , how is your anxiety with the Ukraine situation ? Covid is so 2020/1 and wtf was brexit :D

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nut flush gooner wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:02 am
OneBardGooner wrote:
Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:58 am
Just as it appears that The worst of the COVID (19) and The Omicron Viruses are beginning to Ebb across the Country and much of the world, so That EVIL CU.NT Putin takes it upon himself to start a War and invade The Ukraine - Knowing full well that none of the so-called Western Big Powers (yeah right! :roll: ) would do anything to oppose or challenge him.

Oh! look Boris and the Home Secretary have said the government are going to "Take Action" by "Impose the most punishing sanctions to inflict maximum and lasting pain on Russia".

Really!?

It has now come to light that Boris Johnson when he was Foreign Secretary was approached by Ian Blackford (SNP MP) to do something about the Billions of £'s being channelled out of Russian banks into and through the UK by said Oligarchs.

Boris did nothing.

The MP Layla Moran uses her Parliamentary Privilege to name the 35 Oligarchs (All of whom are part of Putin's inner Circle and have continuously funded and financially backed him since 2009 - that's three years before he was 'elected' (as in bought the presidency) in 2012.

2 of those oligarchs names are very familiar to us all. Abramovich and Usmanov. It transpires that the Tories claims that they had / have taken measures to restrict the movements of those 2 and any further investment dealings in their UK interests are False. Also that some £2.3million in donations were made to the Tory Party by various Oilgarchs who have set up second homes in London.

It's a 5 minute watch but worth it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijinWrEOKAI


FuckOff Putin you Evil Scumbag.
The UK govt could really fuck Chelski up by freezing Abramovich's assets, but being a bunch of populists they don't have the balls to upset their UK fanbase if it would put them back to mid table mediocrity.

Wanna Bet:

From the BBC: (Re: Abramovich the CuntyWhore transferring "Stewardship" of the club...


"By transferring it to the foundation, which is a charitable arm and he is not one of the trustees - although some people with long standing business connections with Abramovich are on the foundation - his legal team would be able to say Chelsea could not be seized by the government."



I just hope they seize his 5 London properties the smallest of which is estimated to be worth in excess of £6.8 Million.


or just have some protestors burn the fuckers down - preferably whilst the smirkingCunt is in one of them.

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Please take a few minutes to watch this brief video by DEC ( Disaster Emergency Committee) and give / donate whatever you can, no matter how small.

https://www.dec.org.uk/?utm_source=twit ... paign=a025.


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A couple of punters enquired if we should have a Ukraine / Putin / WWIII thread so I've amended the title of this thread. Please feel free to put all your real world non football related crises musings here.

Now if you don't mind I'm just going to clear my throat in the style of drummer Bill Ward of Black Sabbath....

"Putin is a cùnt. Putin is a cùnt".

That is all. Thank you. :wink:

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Gunner Rob , I really really wouldn’t worry about the Covid anymore , I think there are slightly larger issues out there .

Oh and btw Chelsea fans are scum

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:17 am
A couple of punters enquired if we should have a Ukraine / Putin / WWIII thread so I've amended the title of this thread. Please feel free to put all your real world non football related crises musings here.

Now if you don't mind I'm just going to clear my throat in the style of drummer Bill Ward of Black Sabbath....

"Putin is a cùnt. Putin is a cùnt".

That is all. Thank you. :wink:
:high5:


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See those "Classless Vermin Scummy Racist Chav CUN.TS have reached a new low, even by their low life standards by chanting the name of One of Putins's Mega-rich Regime Supporter's, when everyone else was holding a minutes applause to show their support for the Ukrainian People and Nation.

What Utter Detestable Pieces of FILTJ they are.

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ESR out with Covid, and they said it wall over

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Naah! Mate- Still people in our department who work on the front-line are getting it. :cry: They've all been jabbed but some are feeling it Badly.

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Political slogans- what's the premier league criteria? They had issues with taking a knee, rainbow laces and the poppy but no issue with the Ukrainian flag. The war is wrong, but when it comes to racism, anti semitism and homophobia the FA have been a bit slow in supporting those causes that have a greater impact on society. They didn't have a problem with accepting Russian money. Showing solidarity with Ukraine seems exaggerated.

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Nos89 wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:01 pm
Political slogans- what's the premier league criteria? They had issues with taking a knee, rainbow laces and the poppy but no issue with the Ukrainian flag. The war is wrong, but when it comes to racism, anti semitism and homophobia the FA have been a bit slow in supporting those causes that have a greater impact on society. They didn't have a problem with accepting Russian money. Showing solidarity with Ukraine seems exaggerated.
Two things.

Firstly, maybe they have finally learned it looks a bit bad to be so far behind on the latest cause célèbre. :wink:

Secondly, the possible onset of The Apocalypse would probably have a greater impact on society than a few isms and phobias! :lol: :wink:

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shu wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:52 pm
Gunner Rob , how is your anxiety with the Ukraine situation ? Covid is so 2020/1 and wtf was brexit :D
There is a clear link between Brexit and the Ukraine crisis.

The Russians have been significant donors to the Conservative party which is why Johnson has been so soft on the Oligarchs.
Also it is becoming obvious that without Russian influence Brexit would not have happened. There was a massive online campaign to brainwash the U.K. public into voting for Brexit and so to therefore destabilise the U.K. and the EU.

It was also a distraction - instead of cutting ourselves off from the EU we should have been getting closer and making NATO stronger and focusing on the real issue - the dictator Putin.

It is no accident that he has decided to invade Ukraine now with Johnson at his weakest and the EU diminished. We like the rest of Europe have been completely played by him.

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Something is puzzling me about the situation in Ukraine. Ever since WWII, war correspondents have reported from the front lines, there’s always been footage of fighting and battles. Vietnam, Iraq, Afghan’ etc etc, always footage.
All I’ve seen from Ukraine are shelling, bombing and missile strikes, not once have I seen a Ukrainian soldier taking a shot? No tanks defending a crossroads, no aircraft hitting anything? Very strange!

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TeeCee wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 6:01 pm
Something is puzzling me about the situation in Ukraine. Ever since WWII, war correspondents have reported from the front lines, there’s always been footage of fighting and battles. Vietnam, Iraq, Afghan’ etc etc, always footage.
All I’ve seen from Ukraine are shelling, bombing and missile strikes, not once have I seen a Ukrainian soldier taking a shot? No tanks defending a crossroads, no aircraft hitting anything? Very strange!
That means that the State will own the talking points. I have to admit that I don't like it either. Any BS can and will be aired, but with the legacy mainstream has it been any different?

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