A Note Of Realism

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Despite the generally positive response in the Gunnersphere to Arteta's appointment, the truth is it represents a massive gamble. I suspect the club had little choice. I have no idea who was on the shortlist if indeed there was one but suffice to say even Brendan Rodgers turned it down. Taking the Arsenal job currently would be career suicide for any top manager. There is a leadership vacuum, no vision for the future and a p*** poor set of players. Arteta at least has the advantage of fan support and believe me that is critical as I will explain later.

Good coach he may be but look at the set up he had at Man City - skilful, motivated players and a world class manager for starters. Arsenal is a s***show from top to bottom. For instance, who was responsible for doing the 'due diligence' on Pepe, a player we paid a club record for. Good player though he looks did no one notice his poor attitude and the fact he is a bad trainer. I could have done a better job. 

It's a club that could easily sink into the Championship. When I started following Arsenal, Burnley, Wolves and Villa were top clubs. Later Derby County and Nottingham Forest dominated for a while, then Leeds. The fall can happen to anyone. Arsenal have been on the decline for a decade or more.

Yes we need a coach - that goes without saying - but the malaise is much deeper. We need someone who can be a leader and has a vision. Someone who can drag the club out of its mediocrity without spending lots of money. Arteta is going to have to rescue the Titanic singlehandedly. That's a mighty ask with the group of players he has at his disposal. More than half of them aren't fit to wear the shirt. Is Arteta capable of such a task? I have no idea.

I do think he has a good chance of avoiding a relegation battle if he is allowed to bring in a couple of players in the January window and can motivate the rest. This will be the Club's priority because next the renewal of season tickets for 2020-21 will be uppermost in their mind. Who is going to pay top dollar to watch the current dross? This would be disaster for the brand. Something that I suspect dear old Josh will be having sleepless nights about. A half empty stadium isn't a good look for sponsors.

My sincere hope is that the scale of the project will encourage Stan to sell up but if not I think the best we can look forward to is a return to the 80's before George came in, mid-table mediocrity with the odd decent cup run. 

How the mighty have fallen.

Best wishes for New Year


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  1. itsRonagain2

    Jan 1, 2020, 09:27 #116003

    Morning guys. Happy new yr to you all. I think today will go one of 2 ways. Either , the organisational improvements shown v Chelsea will show again and get us a draw or Utd will cane us in no uncertain terms. Wengerballs- re Ancellotti. I like Carlo. Always have and recall seeing him as a player. He was an excellent footballer and has been a top Coach. Personally , I think AFC have been right not to appoint him. He’s in his 60s now. Would have required an enormous salary and I believe that like Mourinho and others now, he’s in decline and his most virile coaching days are in the past. Yes, he’s gone to Everton. He’s gone there for an absolute packet of money and only that would have drawn him to a club like that. That deluded bloke that runs them said himself he wanted a ‘hollywood name’ . Well , he’s got one , except that CA is now like one of those Hollywood stars who star is waning and who is now happy to take on crap scripts and demeaning parts, doing TV ads etc etc provided the money is huge. Ancellotti must be laughing his nuts off there. A no pressure job with little expectation , recruited by a dreaming oaf of an owner who s spent the last 3 years buying rubbish for Everton with ‘names’. Carlo s on easy street now. He’s deserves to be. He’s had an amazing career. We are now in the age of the young Coach and clubs developing their own players. That isn’t Carlo.

  2. Cyril

    Dec 31, 2019, 23:31 #116002

    I just hope we make it out alive to the end of the season. I had Wenger’s card marked years ago. He is a European fascist federalist and a spiteful piece of work at that. I bet he would love us to go down and would be surprised if we didn’t considering the shit show he left us with in truth. We are an old fashioned English club that embraces everyone but he like the Euro union felt it incumbent that it was all about them after a slow creep of control took effect. We will prevail and we will come back strong again. Happy new year to all and that does include you Arsene.

  3. John F

    Dec 31, 2019, 22:21 #116001

    Relegation is a possibility especially when other teams start to realise the trouble Arsenal are in and try their hardest to make it happen.Arsenal are not a popular club outside our own fan base and relegation would be greeted with joy by other clubs.The Utd game is vital because if we lose it could put us just 3pts clear then every game even against the mid table clubs will be like a cup tie and I am not sure we have the personnel to cope with it.I am worried especially with the injury list getting worse as now it is being reported that Chamber's could miss the rest of the season.The howler by Leno had a huge effect on the fragile confidence of the team and undid all the positive work Arteta had been doing,it really is an uphill battle for him.Utd for me is a must win game.

  4. Wengerballs

    Dec 31, 2019, 22:13 #116000

    We're paying now for years of under-investment, neglect and dilution of our defense. Season after season of mediocrity tolerated in central defense and trolley dash purchases. The over the top, luxury purchase of Pepe (now a benchsitter) over a proper replacement of Koscielny the latest example of gross mismanagement at the Club. We need three defensive signings urgently, this window. Now were Sanllehis pet Spanish project club. First Emery now Arteta as Spanish experiment #2, unbelievably preferred over Ancelotti. This could go either way, the Clubs on a knife edge. Usmanov sold at the perfect time.

  5. itsRonagain2

    Dec 31, 2019, 21:03 #115999

    SK. Ha ha. I m same as you mate. It’s a perverse feeling to be relishing the basement scap to come but like you, while I m certainly wishing MA all good fortune , those yrs chasing the 4th place Cup knowing that the annual last 16 thrashing was round the corner were tedium in the extreme. Yr right too. The decline started as they left the pitch in game 50. Hindsight tells us that Wenger shd have been sacked within 3 months of that game as by then his great gawky pathetic sulk had been absorbed by his players totally. So, Roll on the bottom 3 when every game will be a proverbial ‘ 6 pointer’! I’ve commented already in the other thread that relegation could be a positive for Arsenal allowing the club and its staff and yes, a great number of fans to purge the dross and to stop deluding themselves about what Arsenal are.

  6. markymark

    Dec 31, 2019, 19:50 #115998

    10 games in will be the time to check Arteta’s progress. Early indications suggest he is making changes. It would now seem far better to have sacked Emery at the international break. Better still to have sacked Emery pre season and best of all replaced Wenger with Arteta . Still we’ve got him now. The other thing we should think about is the sheer number of injuries and absences.. taking that into account and his very recent tenure . The 1-2 wasn’t a bad result


    Dec 31, 2019, 19:13 #115997

    A note of extreme pessimism imo!! Poor old Mikel But I think we will see significant improvement over the second half of the season. OK, that still leaves us with Stanley but then, to quote Joe E Brown in Some Like It Hot, "nobody's perfect".

  8. TonyEvans

    Dec 31, 2019, 14:36 #115996

    SKG1 - couldn’t agree more. The only surprise for me at our current desperate situation is that it has taken as long as it has to really plumb the depths like we are now. If ever a club deserve to be fighting a relegation battle it is Arsenal - years of prevarication, chaotic and confused transfer business, mismanagement both on and off the field have finally taken their toll.

  9. markymark

    Dec 31, 2019, 12:09 #115995

    We as supporters continually want both sides of the cake at once and to be fair that’s only human. We want a pragmatic coach so we get Steve Round . Accept we don’t want that pragmatic coach because we really want an exotic managers retinue. Like Emery who brought a team of 9. Now we want super experienced players prior to that play the youth. IMO each on of those youth players is capable of going on to do greater things but they will probably do a Chelsea good win then bad loss. It’ll probably be a mixture that will pull us through 3 games in and we can detect changes . It will take a further 7 or so to see if Arteta can have a real positive input . Personally I think he has a strong chance

  10. Seven Kings Gooner 1

    Dec 31, 2019, 10:43 #115994

    When George Graham took over, Arsenal slid down the table to 4th or 5th from bottom but gradually his methods came through and the rest as they say is history. We have to give MA time and not panic as fans, personally I think it makes the season more interesting - the fight for survival rather than 4th place. However I and many of us have seen this season coming ever since we lost that 50th match at OT. Make no mistake this decline has been 15 years in the making.

  11. blair207

    Dec 31, 2019, 10:23 #115993

    Almost exactly what I was saying yesterday in the comments and was laughed at. Allowing Ramsey to go on a free and keeping powder puff Ozil signing Pepe and injured Tierney is the sign of a rudderless ship. When Rambo got injured last year our away form collapsed and it has never returned. We’ve got Arteta now and Steve Round, I think they are the wrong guys but let’s hope we get some pragmatic transfer activity in the window and a bit of effort on the pitch to drag us up the table. We are in relegation form just now and have been for about 3 months. MA has improved things a bit but not near enough.