Atletico Madrid semi could be a make or break game.

An Arsenal win will lead to a contract extension for Le Boss



Atletico Madrid semi could be a make or break game.


The mood music coming out of the Club is inconclusive. There is the ‘board are considering their options at the end of season’ line and the other is that Stan 'has no intention of getting rid of Wenger at the end of the season’. The idea that the board have anything to do with the direction of Arsenal football club is laughable despite the various backroom changes, so I think we can dismiss that line of thinking. The second is much more plausible. Wenger and Stan decide what happens at the club.

I have written before that I see no upside in Stan getting rid of Wenger before his contract ends despite the fact that the club are locked in a titanic battle with Burnley for 6th spot. Wenger has played the loyalty card extremely well and to some extent it has boxed Stan into a corner. Does Stan want more grief as a disloyal owner, ungrateful for all Wenger has done? I don’t think so. Wenger has managed to make a persuasive argument that he has sacrificed his life and professional career for the club. He has of course omitted to mention how handsomely he has been rewarded and how low the expectations have become under his tenure.

This is the backdrop to the Europa League semi against Atletico Madrid. The result could be critical in deciding Wenger’s future one way or another. If Arsenal win it - and they are perfectly capable of landing a result - then Wenger is here for next season and a new contract is potentially in the offing. The rubbish of the last two seasons can easily be airbrushed out amid the euphoria of beating Atletico. If they lose it or more importantly lose it in spectacular fashion then the knives will be out and it might just persuade Wenger to call it a day.

It would appear from the various forums that Arsenal fans are divided over how they want this game to pan out. Many who want Wenger out also want the club to triumph over Atletico. This is the ‘I want it both ways’ argument. I have made my views crystal clear. I believe that we need to get spanked by Atletico to have any chance of moving the club forward under another manager. I am well aware that this is a controversial position and not one I have come to easily. In the early years I loved some of the football Wenger served up. My reasoning is this: at present Wenger is Arsenal, you cannot separate the two.

To want us to win it is an endorsement of Wenger’s regime and a vote for the status quo, there is no way round that. However we have been on the slide for a decade or more. This season in particular has been a shocker by any yardstick. Our decline is no glitch, it’s systemic. We are falling further and further behind the top clubs. If Wenger is allowed another year/contract we risk slipping even further behind, it makes the rebuilding job even harder.


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  1. mbg

    Apr 21, 2018, 20:44 #108799

    GoonerRon, Yes but I can switch that off and not read the papers. First of all how can/could anyone say or see anything positive with that fraud in charge with his embarrassing zip fiddling ways, etc, embarrassments and humiliations (apart from you of course you could always see something positive I wonder why) but you just hang on in there (that's if you can now your beloved wenger has been sacked) and you'll see and read them soon enough when there's something to be positive about like when a proper manager comes in and starts doing things right and proper or at least is making a damm good effort too, and he could be long enough getting around to that having to clean up after the excuse for a manager we've had to put up with for years. It will be also interesting to see the positives you have and post about him, although if you can see positive things in wengers team you'll see positives in anyone.

  2. GoonerRon

    Apr 21, 2018, 19:55 #108796

    @ mbg - “it hasn't been eleven hours and i'm fooking sick of it already” sounds a bit like grating to me. Hey ho, I’m looking forward to reading your first ever positive post about the team in due course.

  3. mbg

    Apr 21, 2018, 17:35 #108789

    GoonerRon, it's not grating on me at all at all nothing can or could or will spoil this news, and the hours and days ahead forme no matter what is said about him by wengerites like you i'm loving it, virtually everyone in glowing terms ? you'd like that, but count again, one thing myself and a lot of others on here who wanted him out from away before you lifted your second leg half off the aren't is hypocrites and start singing his praises now, yes we might up on him a little bit now we've got what we want, but start praising him in glowing terms ? not a fooking chance, and I bet that grates /is grating in you.

  4. GoonerRon

    Apr 21, 2018, 9:53 #108766

    @ mbg - I don’t think I’m alone in doing that given virtually every person who has commented on Wenger in the last 24 hours has done so in glowing terms. Hopefully that isn’t grating on you too much.

  5. John F

    Apr 21, 2018, 8:29 #108760

    When's Iain Dowie going to be linked.I get the impression from reading the tributes to Wenger that he was popular.Ex players saying he was like a father figure,the press even Peirs Morgan mentioning his charming and engaging personality but what was missing was compliment s about his coaching and tactical abilities. My revision of his tenure is that he was an enabler and did have an eye in the early days for picking out some really good player's who could be trusted to work things out for themselves.It was when that talent pool dried up that his coaching ability began to be shown up.His refusal to accept his limitations started to damage the club and led to some truly strange decisions ,Liverpool away team selection one of many examples.The players this season saying they needed more help from the coaches was damming and probably contributed to his leaving.I think he is probably more suited to international football because it is all about motivation as there is no time to do proper coaching I do take issue that people are saying he is leaving a team stronger then he found it.The new man is not going to inherit a solid back line with a world class goalkeeper.If the team Wenger inherited played the team he is leaving it would be no contest.

  6. Goonhogday

    Apr 21, 2018, 0:22 #108759

    The easier part has been done. Arsenal are now at a fantastic crossroads where they can interview elite European managers. However, Brendan Rogers is not the answer. Yes, Rogers has been successful in Scotland but with all due respect, the SPL is a one team league!

  7. mbg

    Apr 20, 2018, 23:20 #108758

    GoonerRon, yeah that would be right, I was wondering when you'd pop your head up in support of your beloved wenger, I guess you were itching on your seat and couldn't wait any longer, smoking jack will have as much affiliation and attachment to the next manager (no matter who he is) as he has wenger (sorry had) if he sticks by him during his injury plagued and sick note career (caused by wengers training regime/ methods many would argue, not to mention his tired old physio/medical department) if he becomes a favourite with him too,(just like all the rest of them) and i'd bet him and the rest of the little nice boys will be doing their best to become that alright, but I doubt the new manager will be as obliging as wenger lets hope not anyway, and he's a better manager than that and doesn't suffer fools lightly.

  8. GoonerRon

    Apr 20, 2018, 22:01 #108756

    @ mbg - or maybe Jack just feels some level if attachment to a man who gave him debut at a top team in midfield when he was 16 and stood by him through a number of huge injuries.

  9. mbg

    Apr 20, 2018, 21:43 #108755

    CORNISH GOONER, great post, yes smoking Jack upset nearly in tears the wee p***k, he knows now he, and the rest of the soft pussies aren't going to have an easy ride any more and guaranteed a game no matter what, that's why he's upset. Your right the WOB and those who had the balls to speak out and want him out from way back deserve praise well done to you all, God knows what would have happened or where we'd be now if we'd have all sat on our arse like the wengerite luvvies without a boo or a word of protest, middle of the table with three more years without a doubt and relegation material. We got wenger out.

  10. GoonerRon

    Apr 20, 2018, 21:41 #108754

    The Under-23’s won the Premier League 2 tonight - the first time since 1990 we won it (or its equivalent). They’re also in the final of the Premier League International Cup against Porto and the Under-18’s are in the FA Youth Cup final. With a talented set of youths, a first team squad with unknown potential until coached properly in a defined team structure plus a decent bank balance to work with, the next manager is walking into a fantastic opportunity at a great club with realistic expectations.

  11. Cheltenham Gunner

    Apr 20, 2018, 20:56 #108753

    Fantastic news. Let's now get behind the team and pray the board appoint someone with some football gravitas. As for Arsene thank you for those first ten years of wonderful football, great shame you tarnished your legacy in the last decade.

  12. mbg

    Apr 20, 2018, 20:52 #108752

    Bard, it hasn't been eleven hours and i'm fooking sick of it already, tomorrow will probably be the first time I haven't bought the papers in 35 years, Sky must have it on a fooking loop, wouldn't it be great to be able to hibernate like a couple of AKB's on here do. Yes we'll certainly be uniting behind the new manager alright, and yes Rodgers wouldn't have been my choice, but if it is him, and momentum seems to be building towards him Sky installing him as favourite, but remember this is Arsenal we're talking about, although they've certainly done the right thing this morning he'll still have to get a fair crack of the whip and sort out the mess wenger left behind whether it will be another Fergie scenario time will tell. Yes Gaz enjoy your San mig mate i'm nearly pissed myself, have one on me. Hic.

  13. Paulward

    Apr 20, 2018, 20:33 #108751

    Whatever the finer details or the rights and wrongs, you can bet your life it was the empty seats that did for Wenger. Half empty stadiums are a complete no- no, and the funereal atmospheres v Watford, Stoke and Saints have been the nail in the coffin, ironic really given last years protests.Lets hope next Thursday is the best night yet at the Emirates.COYG

  14. mad max

    Apr 20, 2018, 20:30 #108750

    what a great day for the fans, i think he was pushed after that ridiculous press conference where he denied the stadium was half empty.like many others have sad rejoice at the news but it,s hard not to feel bitter that it was allowed to drag on for many years, the talk now will be about the replacement, who i think they already know who it is. a lot of criticsm of Brendan Rodgers on here i dont get that he was very unlucky to have not won the league at Liverpool and he,s doing a great job at celtic, my choice would be max allegri from juve, but ithink they,ll choose a german because of the new guy,s influence at the club.anyway it,s great to feel positive about the club again

  15. CORNISH GOONER

    Apr 20, 2018, 19:59 #108749

    Like Markymark today's welcome but unexpected news was also delivered by my wife - she has felt sorry for me for months. Of course he was sacked as Arthur had told too many people he would be in charge next season & had identified transfer priorities etc. But, as you would expect the whole day has been brilliantly stage managed by all concerned. What an achievement to dominate the MSM ahead of the Windrush scandal, Syria, Salisbury & the celebration of Charlie Boy's new job as head of the Commonwealth ( the UK has the wealth the others are just "common"). The timing is absolutely right so we can get behind the team for the Europa games & hope for the best. The danger signs are "Smoking" Jack. who was visibly upset, getting a new contract, AW going upstairs & involving himself in his own replacement & Rodgers or Patrick getting anywhere the managerial chair. For me the unrecognised heroes are the dedicated fans who campaigned for change, spent time & money & got their message through to both the main sponsors & the bean counters. We all recognise the 22 years of extremely well rewarded "service" & the notable successes of the first half of AW's tenure but it was blindingly obvious to all but the remaining cult followers that the man outstayed his welcome & would not be able to repeat his earlier successes. In future, I hope that the Ferraris seen driving into Colney today will be truly earned by on-field results. A time for some to own up & for us all to unite (unless Brenda takes the helm!).

  16. markymark

    Apr 20, 2018, 19:37 #108748

    Brian gently strode towards the camera he stepped discretely onto a stool as he was barely 5ft tall. With tears in his eyes he whispered into the microphone “this ones for you Arsene baby , this ones for you “ His voice soaring like an angel as it filled the studio. “ No, I can't forget this evening Or your face as you were leaving But I guess that's just the way the story goes You always smile but in your eyes your sorrow shows Yes, it shows No, I can't forget tomorrow When I think of all my sorrow When I had you there, but then I let you go And now it's only fair that I should let you know What you should know I can't live if living is without you I can't live, I can't give anymore I can't live if living is without you I can't give, I can't give anymore” Fade gently as Brian wipes a tear from his eye “by Arsene baby “

  17. Bard

    Apr 20, 2018, 19:35 #108747

    Mbg you're right on that one mate. Its already started. The last ten years have been airbrushed out in the eulogies. Still he deserves good send off and as other have said maybe we can now unite under the new manager, unless it's that twat Brendan Rogers. It will need to be an experienced and innovative manager to fill his shoes and get this squad onside. Exciting times. Gaz love Mallorca, have family there and go all the time. Palma is a lovely city. Have a great time.

  18. markymark

    Apr 20, 2018, 19:11 #108746

    Brendan Rogers big risk , Patrick Viera big risk . Plus toss pots are already going on about petioning to rename the stadium after Wengo . Avoid all 3 and hopefully we can move forward

  19. mbg

    Apr 20, 2018, 19:03 #108745

    Now unfortunately we'll have to listen to watch/read all the lamenting about him etc, back slapping, etc, etc, what a great manager he is blah, blah, what he has done etc, blah blah, it'll make us sick, and not a f*****g word about the embarrassments, humiliations, stuffing's, how he got rid/airbrushed history and tradition, second third raters, lies, spin, how he's reduced the club to a laughing stock brought it down. No a lot of us haven't forgot that, or won't either. More San Miguel.

  20. Up For Grabs Now

    Apr 20, 2018, 18:46 #108744

    Hallelujah, I feel like I have won a mega rollover lottery! Just hard to believe it's finally over after having longed for this day ever since that capitulation in 2008 v Birmingham, when I knew that with Wenger in charge we would never ever win the PL again or indeed be anywhere near the CL. Whoever takes over has one hell of a job now, so low has he been allowed to take us. I feel no sadness for him whatsoever, especially after all the years of utter contempt he has shown to us the fans.

  21. BigDaveTheGooner

    Apr 20, 2018, 18:35 #108743

    Great news today though I have it on very good authority from someone high up within the game that Brendon Rogers will take over,I hope it's not true but my source is very reliable.

  22. mbg

    Apr 20, 2018, 18:26 #108742

    Gaz, good post, I let a cheer that nearly brought the house down, the first time I've cheered at/about anything Arsenal related for years, a brilliant day for Arsenal and the fans, now where's that bottle of Moet I've been saving for this occasion for years. Cheers.

  23. Gaz

    Apr 20, 2018, 18:14 #108741

    Tony E-Allready had a drink or three to celebrate!!! We’re in Palma Nova which is very nice!

  24. mbg

    Apr 20, 2018, 18:08 #108740

    Just seen footage of fans giving him the send off he deserves as he left London Colney this evening, well done those fans. We got wenger out.

  25. markymark

    Apr 20, 2018, 17:31 #108739

    Mail and Guardian arexsuggesting he knew his time was up. Apparently the club are going to do a ring out to drum up season ticket sales. So his comment about amazing season ticket sales on the face of it is not the case. Facing the sack he resigned . This suggests Josh Kronke has gained some element of control, or Stan is just like any other Billionaire ( money talks the emotion can walk )

  26. markymark

    Apr 20, 2018, 17:13 #108738

    The truth of some sorts will no doubt emerge . One thing none of us have mentioned so far is Josh does a thorough review of Arsenal and within one month Wenger is out. One theory doing the rounds was that Josh is being handed the reigns . This is very convenient for Stan as he can do his what a great man you are Arsene. Whilst letting Josh effectively sack him.

  27. TonyEvans

    Apr 20, 2018, 15:49 #108736

    Hi Gaz - yes a great day, and one we have been longing for for ages now. Bet you will be having one or two Sangrias in Mallorca tonight! Lovely island, especially Porto de Soller and around that part. It is a shame Wenger allowed his legacy to become quite so tarnished but I expect once my euphoria has died down a bit I too will try to remember the good times under his management, and try to forget the rest of it!

  28. Hi Berry

    Apr 20, 2018, 15:34 #108735

    Ron, I'm with you on this.....good news but tinged with a little sadness that the man was allowed to remain in charge way too long after what a lot of posters on here recognised as a slow decline.Great memories of the wondrous football we played back then and the stand out moment for me was that outstanding 4-1 demolition of Blackburn Rovers at Ewood Park in '98 when the pendulum swung and we just knew we were going to win the league.

  29. Gaz

    Apr 20, 2018, 15:24 #108734

    Couldn’t agree more Tony E! What an unbelievable day this has been! There I was sitting in my hotel room in Mallorca waiting to go to the beach when I saw a tweet saying there was an announcement at 10 and nobody knew what it was! As usual I got vaguely hopeful but assumed it was a sponsorship announcement. Then I saw another tweet from someone I thought wouldn’t joke saying ‘don’t shoot the messenger but I’m hearing Wenger’s gone’! I then started to wonder if there was something in this but still assumed it would amount to nothing. Then I saw a tweet from Ian Wright and suddenly started to actually believe something was brewing! Then I saw a tweet from someone with a load of followers what simply said ‘HE’S GONE!!!’. I couldn’t quite take this in until I saw Sky reporting it but even then I had to check it wasn’t a phoney site and this was all just one big joke! Thankfully it wasn’t and after 5 years of seriously wanting him gone I can start to enjoy the Club again! Who’s taking over, who’s leaving, transfers in and out, buying merchandise again! Suddenly everything feels exciting and interesting again!!!! I won’t deny that in time I’ll probably look at Wenger’s career in favourable terms but right now this is the best day I’ve had as a fan in many a year!!!

  30. TonyEvans

    Apr 20, 2018, 15:08 #108733

    Thank goodness we can now all unite behind whoever is replacing him. No more Wenger out / in bickering, just all Arsenal supporters wanting the best for our club. The games against Athletico have now taken on far more significance for me - Christ I may even be nervous about the outcome of a game for the first time in ages - it would be great for the new manager to have a CL place to help with the substantial rebuilding job Wenger has left. Just think we should now hopefully see a decent keeper, back four and holding midfielders recruited, and Wenger's dross being told to shape up or ship out - happy days whether we win anything next season or not. Just to see what I would call a proper Arsenal team again is more than enough for me.

  31. Cloggs

    Apr 20, 2018, 14:59 #108732

    Great news!! I have been waiting nearly twelve years for this day! I bet the other greedy b*st*rds at the board saw it coming; declining revenue.

  32. TonyEvans

    Apr 20, 2018, 14:46 #108731

    Hi Ron - obviously all we can do is speculate but for me Wenger was 'encouraged to go' shall we say! Whether that is the same as being pushed is just semantics. I reckon he thought he would at least be seeing out his contract. I think even our useless board had realised the time had come to act, especially with Wenger talking about summer transfer targets - and giving off every indication he was going nowhere fast.

  33. mbg

    Apr 20, 2018, 14:44 #108730

    Let me be the first to say on this very Auspicious occasion (although of course some won't agree, but do I or others care ?) WE GOT WENGER OUT.

  34. markymark

    Apr 20, 2018, 14:29 #108729

    Guys very urgent news update! Arsene didn’t say he was resigning. He said he was re signing on for another 3 years! Apparently it got lost in translation. Even now Wenger is walking around bemused and confused by the tributes that have been pouring in :)

  35. Yes its Ron

    Apr 20, 2018, 14:21 #108728

    i dont think for one minute AW was pushed. Hes gone as was maybe planned a year or so ago though i think. No way would AFC have laid down the law to him. Far too much respect for his time there and his job done, irrespective of the decline. Mso clubs would give an arm and a leg for AFC s history in this last 10 years, especially that f-----g shower of no hopers at N17 who now be thinking that the imaginary superiority they have really is imaginary, which of course it is.

  36. mbg

    Apr 20, 2018, 14:19 #108727

    Rob 1971, with respect he doesn't deserve a good send off, and certainly won't be getting one from me and a lot of fans I know, good bloody riddance. wenger out.

  37. !No Pasaran!

    Apr 20, 2018, 14:09 #108726

    Wonderful news! I’m looking forward to seeing Arsenal more than at any time over the last 8-10 years! !AVANT!

  38. mbg

    Apr 20, 2018, 14:09 #108725

    markymark, yes mate even in his death throws the weasel was spinning shyte, what a fooking fraud. wenger out.

  39. mbg

    Apr 20, 2018, 13:57 #108724

    markymark, good retort as usual you can just hear the bitterness in what he's saying/his voice, his beloved messiah sacked, great f*****g news, not even he who purports to know everything saw this coming, you can let the pussy out of your pocket anytime. wenger out.

  40. markymark

    Apr 20, 2018, 13:47 #108723

    Baddie I’ve spotted you’ve mentioned the rusty conveyer belt again. For those who missed it, Baddie had a personal vision of hell where his bony arse was being transported in a clanking bucket down a conveyer belt . Anyway Baddie during this vision do you see a man dressed in a black cloak and hood operating a lever? Listen hard Baddie is he cackling wildly ? He’s turning around can you see the letters on his back written large? Does it say W.O.B? What is that scream is it a body falling to its doom ? Oh no another Wenger Boy has bitten the dust, sent hurtling into the abyss. Whilst the cackling operator laughs his sinister laugh. Lucky it was all a dream! Until of course Baddie turned on the radio this morning........

  41. TonyEvans

    Apr 20, 2018, 13:45 #108722

    Hi Ron - yes great shame Wenger didn't wake up and smell the coffee years ago. He would have left with reputation intact and as a managerial hero for Arsenal. As it was, as each year went by, his legacy went from being tarnished to being ripped into tiny pieces. I won't be shedding any tears for him, but certainly have renewed interest in the EL, now I know Wenger's future doesn't depend on the outcome. Come on you Gunners!

  42. mbg

    Apr 20, 2018, 13:37 #108721

    So the breaking news is TOF is to leave this summer ? lets hope it's true, get in there. wenger out.

  43. Rob1971

    Apr 20, 2018, 13:35 #108720

    Yes much too late, but we have to now support the team fully, and give Wenger a good send off......for us as much as for Wenger.

  44. GoonerRon

    Apr 20, 2018, 13:28 #108719

    @ Exeter - I’m not saying the annoucement happening today was orchestrated, just that the club probably realised last summer that even if they wanted to change they weren’t structurally ready for it. There’s every chance he was pushed.

  45. Yes its Ron

    Apr 20, 2018, 13:23 #108718

    Reality C - Yes matey, agree totally. It surely wont be glory filled. I think i said that in my post. Its going to be a hard climb out of this trough and likely as much needing more than one managerial change. Its a Clubs culture than need altering now, not just a football team isnt is, such has been AWs grip.

  46. Reality Cech

    Apr 20, 2018, 13:12 #108717

    Ron, I disagree, I don’t see how the re-build job can’t be easy or glory filled? This idiots shambolic charge has lowered your expectations. Breathe in, enjoy it, think positive and don’t buy in to the ‘careful what you wish for ‘ bullsiht. This is a important and significant step in improving our club and our future. There’s only one Arsenal!

  47. Aylesbury Gooner

    Apr 20, 2018, 13:07 #108716

    Could not beleive it when i switch on sky sports had to check the date making sure it wasn't April fools day.Might get that season ticket ive turned down the last few seasons YES.

  48. Exeter Ex

    Apr 20, 2018, 13:07 #108715

    GoonerRon - I'm not sure how you can see a sudden announcement on April 20 as somehow part of an orchestrated plan. There was a meeting yesterday afternoon following Wenger's press conference, maybe that was enough to finally tip the balance and persuade Kroenke to pull the plug. The 12 month caretaker theory would have credence if he'd announced at end of season, but not now, a day after a press conference in which he was going on about summer transfer plans and dismissing the empty seats. He's been pushed out.

  49. Reality Cech

    Apr 20, 2018, 13:02 #108714

    YESSSS!!! Fantastic news! Can’t stop fist pumping! 1st step to getting our beloved Arsenal back!

  50. Yes its Ron

    Apr 20, 2018, 12:50 #108713

    Hi Tony - Fair enough mate. Im pleased Arsenes going but less pleased he tarnished his time at AFC. Ive asked for him gone since the 8-2. That was the watershed moment for me. Yes, the decline has been hard to take but he goes with good thoughts for me anyway. 97 - 02 was the best for me. Silly as it sounds, but for me the cracks, flaws and team habits we see today started in the so called invincible s team. The mmodiness, the fragile mindsets at times when going behind. It all imploded after game 49 when things have just deteriorated further. 2008 was the time when things really plummeted at Bham City. Arsene should have known when to go but AFC encouraged him in his ways. Its been a one way street. The re shaping wont be pretty, glory filled or easy. I hope We can send him on his way with a EL win but i know many on here dont, which for the life of me i cant understand. Its good news though all the same. New brooms and all that ...... the proof of the pudding will be in who they get in. I think they already know the new man and have known for a while. Im praying its not terry henry!

  51. GoonerRon

    Apr 20, 2018, 12:49 #108712

    @ Marky - I don’t think the club was structurally ready for a managerial change last summer. A legacy manager and Football Executive support structures not built for the modern game meant it was a season too early I think. With Mislintat, Sanellhi and a seemingly braver Gazidis (and possibly even Kroenke Jr providing some forward thinking) we’re much better set now. Gary Neville called it - maybe the two year deal was a smokescreen for esssentailly a 12 month caretaker job until we could sort our **** out behind the scenes.

  52. Exiled in Pt

    Apr 20, 2018, 12:47 #108711

    What a great day, did not think it would ever come i stand corrected. Lets hope the replacement is from the top draw.. The board out

  53. Exeter Ex

    Apr 20, 2018, 12:28 #108710

    Obviously still in shock but can't say I'm feeling any sadness. I would've a few years ago but he way, way overstayed his time and was so monstrously arrogant about it. I just want him far, far away from the club now, we could do with not hearing or seeing him at all from the summer on. He's left such a lopsided mess of a squad as well, a huge rebuilding job ahead. But it'll be exciting to watch again, with renewed hope.

  54. Moscowgooner

    Apr 20, 2018, 12:22 #108709

    What a fantastic day in Arsenal history! Now we want 60,000 packed in versus Atletico and make the Emirates rock as never before. We can finally unite behind the team after ten years of bitterness and division - and win a European trophy!

  55. markymark

    Apr 20, 2018, 12:20 #108708

    There are stories knocking around Conte is being sacked. Are the stories anyway connected ???? If true did we need to send out a public statement to secure the new manager? Has Enrique told us , you have to let me know ? Or is it even Conte in the frame? Looking at this news and judging by the lines coming out of the club as written up by Bard. I reckon something big happened in the last 24hours to alter events . The timing prior to the semi is strange when you think of it . Ps Ron , I’m a tad shocked but not sorry. Wenger used up his opportunities to go head held up. Of course he’ll get a good send off at the ground but he didn’t pick his moment well and put the club through needless strife this season. Let’s face it next year we could have been looking at 25k crowds spread across the ground with 4K away support packed in and loving it. Morale collapses at home and we are looking at 75-76 all over again . Why didn’t he leave after Chelsea ? For an intelligent man it was so foolish and I suspect based on internal fear. How we have suffered whilst he worked out his inner demons.

  56. TonyEvans

    Apr 20, 2018, 12:14 #108707

    RadfordKennedy - I have a rather nice bottle of single malt at home which will be just the job tonight, after some celebratory pints at my local. Off to the pub now with some work mates - drinks are on me!

  57. GoonerRon

    Apr 20, 2018, 12:13 #108706

    Wenger has been a massive part of my Arsenal supporting life. So many unforgettable moments and at times took us to levels I never thought possible. This is a seismic moment in our club’s history and one that is overdue. I look back with fondness and respect, look forward to the end of this season with hope it ends in a trophy and beyond this season feel excitement at a new chapter unfolding where fans can be united behind our great club.

  58. TonyEvans

    Apr 20, 2018, 11:57 #108705

    Hi Ron - not often I disagree with you but I have no sense of sadness about Wenger's exit at all. I know there were great times in his early years, but these last 10 years or so have been purgatory for me football wise (in spite of the FA Cup wins) and I could not be more happy about his leaving if I tried!

  59. FPGooner

    Apr 20, 2018, 11:34 #108704

    Badarse, my dictionary defines demise as 1, a person's death and 2, the end or failure of an enterprise or institution. I may be wrong, but Wenger hasn’t died (Terry Wogan once said, funny but when a man is popular, they either refer to him by his first name or his full name, but when he becomes unpopular, they just use his last name, as in Hitler, Mussolini, Mugabe etc.) Are you referring to the demise of Wenger’s abilities and popularity? Judging by the empty seats at the Emirates, definition 2 holds greater credence. Wenger going may save the Emirates, where once there stood a Football club, not a social club for mediocre, physically and tactically disadvantaged ex-footballers. Perhaps Badarse can enlighten us why despite so desperately wanting to portray himself as a free spirit and not being part of a ‘clique’, he befriended anyone on here who was remotely pro-Wenger. Granted, opportunities for Badarse to have more soulmates have diminished as Wenger’s stay had become evermore ridiculous and untenable. Go back a few years, and there were a few on here, Jules, Charlie and the insane Jamerson, to name a few in his pro-Wenger camp. Badarse was in his element lording it over this freakshow. He had no issues being part of a ‘clique’ then. But then, consistency and coherence is not part of your DNA, is it? Anyone can cite the number of times you have been vitriolic about this site and its posters and now you seek to explain why this website exists? What now for you, Badarse? snipe from the sidelines at the posters? at the new coach?

  60. markymark

    Apr 20, 2018, 11:23 #108703

    Badarse - you certainly found your level didn’t you?. Jamee white supremacist , ToOaW - anti Irish racism and all round nastiness and your circle jerk posting with Super Mug Colesey with your OAP hooligan fantasy . You picked your chums and I naturally fit into a group who tend to post in despair of Arsene Wenger . Look around Baddie where’s your WengerBoyz? This blatant hypocrisy of yours is well and truly shocking . Every time you can, you either jump in with the toad or try to ingratiate yourself with another member of this site. If you could you’d form a clique of attack . You failed though Badarse , the controller who can’t control . Of course I’m loving this day so are literally hundreds of thousands

  61. Alsace

    Apr 20, 2018, 11:22 #108702

    The creature has wasted 10 years of my football watching life and £30k of my money. He deserves no misty eyed nostalgia. His conduct was absolutely deliberate. A complete refusal to address the fundamental strength of any team, it's midfield destructive axis linked to an impregnable defence. A return to this orthodoxy is the greatest prize associated with the departure of an unprofessional amateur.

  62. The Man From UNCLE

    Apr 20, 2018, 11:21 #108701

    Thank heavens. Now we can start the renewal process. So who's gonna get the gig?

  63. Exeter Ex

    Apr 20, 2018, 11:16 #108700

    You can feel just how grief-soaked Badarse's words are. But Wenger is not dead. Hopefully this will be good for him too. He can go off and do something productive if he chooses, use his great wealth at grassroots level in Africa or something. It may turn out to be liberating for him, as it is for any Arsenal fan who puts the club first.

  64. Yes its Ron

    Apr 20, 2018, 11:15 #108699

    Its good news really but any true Gunner will also feel its clouded in some sadness. AW has been a great servant to AFC and his best times were fantastic. Great memories and AW should be wished well in his future ventures.

  65. David1

    Apr 20, 2018, 11:11 #108698

    Such a shame it didn't happen 6 years ago, when he was still fairly popular. He never deserved the spite of the fans; and as has been mentioned many times over, it's not his fault that the board refused to replace him at an earlier date. I'm hoping he gets a good send-off with victory in Yerp.

  66. Alsace

    Apr 20, 2018, 11:05 #108697

    Allons enfants de la patrie, le jour de gloire est arrivee. I have been waiting for this day for over 10 years. I can enjoy Arsenal and Football again. What a liberation. How lovely to see the outpouring of joy from so many on this site. I won't be gracious in victory. The club have terminated the contract of the manager. For this relief, for this coming to sense - much thanks.

  67. Roy

    Apr 20, 2018, 11:04 #108696

    Well that's me off out tonight !

  68. Badarse

    Apr 20, 2018, 11:02 #108695

    No Nark, a clique by any name doesn't quite click with me. Generally they let themselves down, have selective observations, secret agendas, and a disparate group of individuals who cuddle up to anyone sharing the single and solitary desire-a change of manager. Water finds it's own level and those who parade their lack of humility and honour are patently obvious to those who do not. A majority has never made for 'right'. It is a POV. In a room of Moan U fans a Gooner is in the minority but isn't by circumstance in the wrong. I am dismayed by the behaviour of many, but not surprised. We live in an age of cowardice, trolls, trawls, Keyboard WORriors, and bully boys. The concept that a person who does not see life in the same hue as another is by default wrong is ludicrous. This day had to arrive as with your own demise and ultimately falling off that huge conveyor belt. We are as chalk and cheese but a love of a football club should be what it is, a universal delight. Some forget themselves. So don't forget to remember. This site offers a chance to communicate. If a group display attitudes of dismay at a situation, or show angst by frothing constantly calling for AW's head, then trying to undermine or bully someone seen as an opponent they need taking down. It isn't possible unless face to face, so you point out their inadequacies, their inconsistencies, and their injustices. I would think if the brain cells were able to comprehend these words many may feel embarrassed by their behaviour. Enjoy the day.

  69. Redshirtwhitesleeves

    Apr 20, 2018, 10:54 #108694

    My god tell me I'm not dreaming!!! Fantastic news...now let's see if we can get our Arsenal back

  70. markymark

    Apr 20, 2018, 10:46 #108693

    Badarse - why shouldn’t we celebrate ? for some of us it’s been 8 years in the making , some 6 , some 5,4,3,2. You’re probably getting the idea by now. Obviously it’s tempting for you to make it all about you and go on about bullying , you’ve spent years on this site fruitlessly trying to spin this into an Arsene love fest , you even tried to pee on the Anti-hunting Kronke protest as it didn’t suit your agenda . You’re a controller who never gained control . You lost . You never attend anyway . So what’s your issue? Up to you if you stay , no one is forcing you but I would suggest Untold fits your agenda more. You can stay buried in your faux loyalty. For us it’s about the club renewal and building a new Arsenal however imperfect that may be. This is no misfortune, it’s one of the greatest opportunities in the modern Arsenal history .

  71. Exeter Ex

    Apr 20, 2018, 10:44 #108692

    Wenger has clearly been told he has to go. Only yesterday he was talking like he's carrying on and on. People are celebrating the reappearance of HOPE. It's a time for those who wanted him to carry on to show some humility, to admit their judgment was way off... but as we can see as the first of them pops up his head, he's determined to continue the schism. He will not succeed.

  72. Gaz

    Apr 20, 2018, 10:37 #108691

    In a state of shock!!!! Happiest I’ve felt in ages!!!!

  73. Goonhogday

    Apr 20, 2018, 10:34 #108690

    I’m ecstatic! Like winning a trophy!! Wenger out!

  74. markymark

    Apr 20, 2018, 10:34 #108689

    Seemed that sentiment was picking up he was staying . Sounds like a line was spun to cover the impending news . It’ll be interesting to see how much Wenger actually new about this. Kronkes statement (actually very good ) was about the difficult decision , now it is I know, but it does sound a bit like it’s from the board side. After all they could have just let Arsene come out with a prepped speach. I’m wondering if they’ve received a strong message from our new would be sponsors

  75. Ham

    Apr 20, 2018, 10:31 #108688

    I'm ecstatic, just can't believe it!!!! Carlsberg don't do Fridays, but if they did.....

  76. Bard

    Apr 20, 2018, 10:30 #108687

    Sorry guys couldn't t help myself, what a fantastic piece of news. At last we might get our club back. So glad he's made the right decision.

  77. Badarse

    Apr 20, 2018, 10:29 #108686

    How odd to celebrate another's demise. I perfectly understand the frustrations accompanying a certain mindset, that is natural and quite normal, but to celebrate. Gentlemen remember who you are, what you are, and who you represent. Hold onto your dignity in times of misfortune it can sometimes be all you have. To actually believe that an Arsenal fan, an OG lover, will actually disappear from these pages because an Arsenal manager has left displays an incredible misunderstanding, both of personality and objective. Bully boys need standing up to, they are usually cowards and many here prove the point. You have been stood up my little hard bald eggs. Thanks Arsene for the last two decades. Good old Arsenal.

  78. jb1109

    Apr 20, 2018, 10:27 #108685

    What a brilliant day! No empty seats for West Ham!

  79. TonyEvans

    Apr 20, 2018, 10:26 #108684

    Rejoice, rejoice. Best news I have had for ages!

  80. peter wain

    Apr 20, 2018, 10:19 #108683

    lets hope it is not apres moi le deluge.

  81. markymark

    Apr 20, 2018, 10:17 #108682

    I’m actually in shock even funnier is that the football expert (my wife) was the first person to tell me! I’m on a Stag Do this weekend I’m actually going to have a word with myself to reign it in . I want to enjoy the seasons ahead not be an ironic ‘he drank himself to death in celebration!’

  82. GoonerRon

    Apr 20, 2018, 10:12 #108681

    WOW, what a bolt from the blue!

  83. Exeter Ex

    Apr 20, 2018, 10:11 #108680

    SANITY PREVAILS AT LAST!! No more Wenger, no more wanting the team to lose in the hope it makes Wenger leave... no more Badarse and Toady. What a day. Were I in London I'd be going down the ground to celebrate.

  84. Radfordkennedy

    Apr 20, 2018, 10:11 #108679

    Gentleman...start your engines,for there are copious amounts of dark fruits and Laphroaig to consume this weekend,I raise a glass with all of you

  85. RegW

    Apr 20, 2018, 10:06 #108678

    Yippee

  86. markymark

    Apr 20, 2018, 10:04 #108677

    He’s going oh hallelujah he’s going oh Bard , oh everyone let’s thrash Athleti for he is going !!!!😃😃😃😃😁

  87. Paulward

    Apr 20, 2018, 10:03 #108676

    What a good judge I am ! He’s going !

  88. MAF

    Apr 20, 2018, 10:00 #108675

    wenger is gone let the healing begin

  89. Paulward

    Apr 20, 2018, 9:35 #108674

    Agree with Mark, don’t see a contract extension happening at all. He’ll probably get next year and be allowed to go without any fuss, regardless of what happens v Madrid. The worry has got to be how much more damage will he do next season.Could leave behind a bottom half team so steep is our downward trajectory.

  90. Badarse

    Apr 20, 2018, 9:17 #108673

    Corny old git you get back into your slime pit chum. You can take the other one with you too. Did you enjoy trawling? Ha ha, what a waster. Ever posted anything remotely intelligent related to Arsenal? Methinks not pal. Woof, woof. Unfunny and spurious posting fella, as for degrees of cuts I think a deep cut would serve you best.

  91. RobG

    Apr 20, 2018, 9:17 #108672

    Would agree entirely with this, if it wasn't for the fact that Wenger's stranglehold has already been broken. He neither wanted nor endorsed Mislintatt or Sanallhi but Gazedis - and the Board ! - forced this through whatever he whinged. An abiding characteristic of Wenger's last decade, is that he only wants 'Yes' men around him, who are his picks. These two are neither. They would not come to sit back and count paperclips, whilst Wenger the ego maniac, continues to try to everything. They are clearly part of a new trajectory to move the Club on beyond Wenger. My belief / hope, is that Wenger will go in May whatever happens in the EL. I hope to Goodness, I am right.

  92. markymark

    Apr 20, 2018, 8:25 #108671

    Perfectly fair and valid points. I do think though extensions are probably off the agenda as unless Mstinlat and Sanlehi are here to put up their hammocks and have it easy ultimately I’m guessing plan is ultimately for him to go by end of contract. I’m hoping there is still option for him to go by end of season. Wenger of course is acting delusional with apparently no idea why people are not turning up. I see the agenda turning from protest to boredom. It could well be boredom that is most dangerous . It’s a lot easy to say I’m not turning up it just gets boring that can spread like a plague. Just a quick note I’d add. Yes Arsenal might be Athletico but , it’s completey within Wenger’s capabilities to screw up a euro final. The other team in the final is going to want to win it as well. Well written article , good points. I’m going ( unlike the pair of Arsene whack jobs who infest this site) I suppose we will be further down the road to knowing a little more on Thursday